Jim Fetzer Real Deal Appearance 2/10/14

You can listen to the show either by playing the clip in your browser or by downloading it from here.

Simon Shack and the “researchers” at the September Clues Forum have constructed their own mythology of the events of September 11, 2001. This blog post will further deconstruct the phony 9/11 mythology of the Clues Forum.

For the record here is the Myth that September Clues is advocating:

“TOUR GUIDE” to the September Clues research

It is fair to say the September Clues research has established these 4 main points:

1- The 9/11 imagery was nothing but a Hollywood-style film production, complete with actors in the role of ‘eye-witnesses’ or ‘firefighters’, staged ‘running crowds’, 3D-compositing and special cinematic effects. The ’9/11 movie’ was split into a number of short clips and sold to the TV audience as ‘newscasts’. The few clips featuring ‘airplanes’ (or dull silhouettes thereof) were computer-generated images – all of which in stark conflict with each other, as now comprehensively demonstrated in every imaginable manner, angle and method.

2- No commercial airliners were hijacked or – much less – crashed into the WTC towers, the Pentagon or the Shanksville field. No valid/verifiable records exist for : their airport logs/schedules, their numbered parts, their alleged passengers. Their reported speeds at near sea-level as well as the absurd visuals of their total, effortless disappearance into the WTC façades defy the laws of mechanics and physics – and the absence of visible wake vortexes in the WTC impact imagery also defies the laws of aerodynamics.

3- The World Trade Center Complex (9 buildings in all) were demolished with powerful explosives. No image-analyses of the tower collapses can help determine just what type of explosives were employed – since the videos are 3D animations and do not represent the real-life events. In reality, as they collapsed, the WTC complex was most likely enveloped by military-grade smoke obscurants. No real/private imagery exists of the morning’s events – ‘thanks’ to electromagnetic countermeasures.

4- No “3000″ people were trapped in the top floors/nor perished in the WTC towers. Only one thing was more important to the perps than avoiding a mass murder of 3000 US citizens : to sell the notion that “bogeyman Bin Laden” killed 3000 US citizens. We have renamed the ‘victims’ of these psy-operations “VICSIMS” (SIMulated VICtims). In fact, our research has seen the same pattern emerge in all the so-called “Al-Qaeda Terror Attacks” around the world (LONDON 7/7, MADRID 11, BALI, MUMBAI, etc…). In all logic, the very last aggravation the plotters behind these false-flag operations wish to have, are scores of real families hounding them forever with real questions and real class actions. Hence: NO real terror victims = Logical PsyOp rationale.

9/11 is but a giant – and still ongoing – money-making scam. It rotates around the most well-funded and profitable hoax of modern history. Everyone involved in the scheme is reaping a sizable return from their ‘investment bond’ which, naturally, has “SILENCE” printed all over it. For anyone to ‘speak out’ would be both ruinous and suicidal – a most distasteful option. To be sure, ‘suicidal heroics’ only exist in journalistic fairy-tales such as the outlandish news media’s narrative of 9/11 and its “nineteen religious fanatics”. The skeptics objecting that “too many people would have had to be in on this” fail to account for the most fundamental aspect of human nature: our survival instinct.

The master plan of 9/11 was to demolish the redundant, asbestos-filled WTC complex in Lower Manhattan – 9 buildings in all. The area would naturally be evacuated (as for all such demolitions) in order to prevent a slaughterhouse of dreadful proportions – not a good idea at all. To be sure, this was no mass murder scheme – just a formidable opportunity for massive financial gains and military propaganda. The military (and its various intelligence affiliates) would manage the ground logistics, such as securing the area, raising smokescreens to hide the proceedings from public view, and last but not least, electromagnetic countermeasures to keep any private cameras from filming the mayhem. The WTC complex was thus ‘safely’ destroyed in bright daylight. It was a magician’s trick, pulled off by sleight of hand to fool the few (the NY onlookers) – and with computer graphics to fool the world (the TV viewers).

Simon Shack: Twin Towers were Demolished by Dynamite

Below is an audio clip of Ab Irato reading a Simon Shack post.

Here are the main points:

1. All of the 9/11 events were fake including the collapse of the Twin Towers. Television viewers were shown pre-produced movie footage.

2. The actual collapse of the Twin Towers wouldn’t be shown on TV.

3. Support for theories that claim exotic demolition methods were used on the WTC were derived from fake images and videos so those theories must be rejected.

4. WTC complex was hidden from view by military grade smoke obscurants before the demolition took place.

5. 12 years of bickering and circular debates about what explosives were actually used.

6. Dynamite has been used in all building demolitions. Dynamite was up for the job in 2001.

7. Biltmore hotel was demolished in 1977. The Biltmore was a 245 foot, 28-story high steel framed building. CDI needed to place charges on both sides of steel beams.

8. Most New Yorkers probably watched the Twin Towers getting demolished on TV.

Father Frank Morales Describes Ground Zero

Below is an audio clip of Frank Morales w/ Jim Fetzer from 10/2/07 describing first hand what he witnessed at Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath of the destruction of the WTC buildings. Compare what Frank has to say versus the September Clues version of Ground Zero. The Clues Forum guys would have you believe that the WTC complex was merely a movie set. That stands in stark contrast to the horror show that Frank and many other witnesses described at Ground Zero.

1. No chairs or desks found at Ground Zero.

2. The soil was rich and moist from the bodies of the dead.

3. 1,100 bodies vaporized. DNA was mixed in from different bodies.

4. Collapse of the buildings wouldn’t vaporize 1,100 people.

5. Very little debris found. Jet fuel can’t explain this.

6. The North Tower was referred to as the “2,000 degree pit.” The cherry picker removed pieces of molten steel from below ground level.

7. Workers were going around with red 1 lb bags collecting 1 inch or less pieces of bodies.

Can dynamite or kerosene explain the kind of devastation that Frank describes at Ground Zero? Of course not. Frank is clearly describing behemoth skyscrapers that were reduced to dust and 1,100 people that were completely vaporized. Only nuclear bombs can account for what was witnessed at Ground Zero.

Ground Zero

The term ground zero (sometimes also known as surface zero as distinguished from zero point describes the point on the Earth’s surface closest to a detonation. In the case of an explosion above the ground, ground zero refers to the point on the ground directly below the detonation (see hypocenter).

The term has often been associated with nuclear explosions and other large bombs, but is also used in relation to earthquakes, epidemics and other disasters to mark the point of the most severe damage or destruction. The term is often re-used for disasters that have a geographic or conceptual epicenter.

The term was military slang, used at the Trinity site where the weapon tower for the first nuclear weapon was at “point zero”, and moved into general use very shortly after the end of World War II. At Hiroshima, the hypocenter of the attack was Shima Hospital.

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Ground Zero at Hiroshima

El Buggo and a number of other shills on the internet are claiming that nuclear weapons don’t exist. El Buggo states that he isn’t able to find Ground Zero at Hiroshima (no big crater) so he doubts that Hiroshima was actually nuked. El Buggo states that Hiroshima was merely firebombed and that the government is claiming it was nuked as an intimidation tactic. El Buggo is completely full of it. He’s most likely a paid shill so anything he says can be discounted.

The nuke-denying disinformationists attempt to play on the ignorance of the public of the actual effects of nuclear weapons. In this case an air-burst atomic weapon not leaving a crater at Ground Zero.

For the record here is a link to a 360° panorama taken by the US Army at Ground Zero in Hiroshima.

Hiroshima after the Atomic Bomb – Ground Zero (5 of 5) by US Army in Japan


The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a 15 kiloton bomb that was primitive by today’s standards. Only 1.38% of its uranium actually fissioned. The main effect of the bomb was fire. The mass fire burned for 6 hours and consumed 4.5 square miles of the city.

The Little Boy Bomb:

Dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, it was the first nuclear weapon used in a war. Following are some approximate statistics for Little Boy. If you require more extensive information on this weapon, please contact us:

Weight: 9,700 lbs

Length: 10 ft.; Diameter: 28 in.

Fuel: Highly enriched uranium; “Oralloy”

Uranium Fuel: approx. 140 lbs; target – 85 lbs and projectile – 55 lbs

Target case, barrel, uranium projectile, and other main parts ferried to Tinian Island via USS Indianapolis

Uranium target component ferried to Tinian via C-54 aircraft of the 509th Composite Group

Efficiency of weapon: poor

Approx. 1.38% of the uranium fuel actually fissioned

Explosive force: 15,000 tons of TNT equivalent

Use: Dropped on Japanese city of Hiroshima; August 6, 1945

Delivery: B-29 Enola Gay piloted by Col. Paul Tibbets

Nuclear Weapon Thermal Effects

Large amounts of electromagnetic radiation in the visible, infrared, and ultraviolet regions of the electromagnetic spectrum are emitted from the surface of the fireball within the first minute or less after detonation. This thermal radiation travels outward from the fireball at the speed of light, 300,000 km/sec. The chief hazard of thermal radiation is the production of burns and eye injuries in exposed personnel. Such thermal injuries may occur even at distances where blast and initial nuclear radiation effects are minimal. Absorption of thermal radiation will also cause the ignition of combustible materials and may lead to fires which then spread rapidly among the debris left by the blast.

The fireball from a nuclear explosion reaches blackbody temperatures greater than 107 °K, so that the energy at which most photons are emitted corresponds to the x-ray region of the electromagnetic spectrum. For detonations occurring below 30,000 m (100,000 ft) these X-rays are quickly absorbed in the atmosphere, and the energy is reradiated at blackbody temperatures below 10,000 °K. Both of these temperatures are well above that reached in conventional chemical explosions, about 5,000 °K. For detonations below 100,000 feet, 35 percent to 45 percent of the nuclear yield is effectively radiated as thermal energy.

In addition to the high temperature of the nuclear fireball, the blackbody radiation is emitted in a characteristic two-peaked pulse with the first peak being due to the radiating surface of the outrunning shock. As the fireball expands and its energy is deposited in an ever-increasing volume its temperature decreases and the transfer of energy by thermal radiation becomes less rapid. At this point, the blast wave front begins to catch up with the surface of the fireball and then moves ahead of it, a process called hydrodynamic separation. Due to the tremendous compression of the atmosphere by the blast wave, the air in front of the fireball is heated to incandescence. Thus, after hydrodynamic separation, the fireball actually consists of two concentric regions: the hot inner core known as the isothermal sphere; and an outer layer of luminous shock-heated air.

The outer layer initially absorbs much of the radiation from the isothermal sphere and hence the apparent surface temperature of the fireball and the amount of radiation emitted from it decreases after separation. But, as the shock front advances still farther, the temperature of the shocked air diminishes and it becomes increasingly transparent. As the shock front temperature drops below 6,000 °K, thermal radiation decreases when the shock front becomes transparent to radiation from the interior. This occurs between 10-5 and 10-2 seconds after detonation. At about 0.1 second after detonation, the shock front becomes sufficiently transparent that radiation from the innermost, hottest regions becomes visible, producing a second thermal peak. This results in an unmasking of the still incandescent isothermal region and an increase in the apparent surface temperature of the fireball. This phenomena is referred to as breakaway. Before the second peak begins the fireball has radiated only about one quarter of its total energy. About 99 percent of the total thermal energy is contained in the second pulse. The duration of this pulse depends on the yield of the weapon and the height of burst (HOB); it ranges from only about 0.4 s for a 1 KT air burst to more than 20 s for a 10 MT explosion.

The rate of thermal emission from the fireball is governed by its apparent surface temperature. The thermal output of a nuclear air burst will then occur in two pulses), an initial pulse, consisting primarily of ultraviolet radiation, which contains only about 1% of the total radiant energy of the explosion and is terminated as the shock front moves ahead of the fireball, and a second pulse which occurs after breakaway.

The Ground Zero “Pothole”

Below is an excerpt from pages 390-3 of Khalezov’s 9/11thology:

Independent confirmations of the nuclear demolition. Molten rock, thermal maps, “Ice Age glaciers” and “hard evidence”

One might ask probably another question – are there any independent sources that could confirm that there were indeed three underground nuclear explosions in Lower Manhattan, apart from the ravings of the author of these lines and other “conspiracy theorists” of similar kind – such as above mentioned Mr. Tahil?

Firstly, I would like to state that Mr. Tahil claims that there were only two underground nuclear explosions, not actually three. This is, by the way, yet another clear indication that he might be closely related to those culprits from the WTC demolition team. If he were an honest researcher, then, considering his supernatural shrewdness, he would never fail to notice the third nuclear demolition event – in regard to the WTC-7. To answer the actual question – yes, there are some independent sources, which indirectly testify to the same effect as the author of these lines.

An unprecedented article titled “Pictured: The 40ft ‘pothole’ that shows Ground Zero was once the site of an Ice Age glacier” appeared simultaneously in several newspapers, for example, in the UK “Mail”, published online on September 23, 2008.

The article featured quite an interesting photograph showing the excavated “bathtub” at “Ground Zero” along with an odd, giant, so-called “pothole” in the spot of one of the former Twin Towers. Edges of the “pothole” appeared to be covered in molten rock. There were actually three pictures of the so-called “potholes” – two of them inserted into the above mentioned article, and one more photo of the same series was used in another news article dealing with the same issue. Below is one of the first two:

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Here is the second photograph from that article:

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Proof of ice: The giant ‘pothole’, seen in the lower half of this picture, is proof the World Trade Centre towers stood on what was once ground covered by an Ice Age glacier

You could really appreciate the description under the above photo… I mean, you could really appreciate the level of the desperation of the U.S. Government officials and their spin-doctors, who were tasked with the near impossible task – to say something comprehensible in regard to the incriminating cavities that had nothing to do with either the “kerosene”, nor with the supposed “mini-nukes”.

Yet, an even more seditious picture was leaked to the public at about the same time; it belonged to the same series of the so-called “potholes” photos. This one came with the Associated Press’ article published by “Science on NBCNEWS.com”. The article was named “Ice Age geology revealed at Ground Zero. World Trade Center dig uncovers 20,000-year-old, 40-foot-deep pothole”. The actual article could be found on this MSNBC news web page (at least, it was still there in the last days of December 2012).

The below one is that seditious photo showing the smooth edges of the molten rock I am talking about.

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These utterly seditious pictures were apparently taken illegally, since it was strictly prohibited to bring any photographic equipment into “ground zero” area, even when these words were still spelled with low-case letters, and when there were thousands of ground zero responders clearing enormous piles of the debris and searching for survivors.

It would be even more illegal to make such pictures of “Ground Zero” when the majority of the initial responders were banned from the site and only less than a hundred of the highly trusted people remained there to fix the unexplainable underground cavities.

Dimitri’s footnote:

On November 2nd, 2001, NY Mayor Giuliani suddenly and without any seeming reason has ordered city officials to limit the number of rescue workers trying to recover victims’ bodies to 25 each from the Port Authority police, NYPD and FDNY, and an additional 10 firefighters for fire suppression – which caused deep resentment among the firefighters and even some scuffles with the police – deployed to protect “Ground Zero” from those unwanted firefighters.

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Can conventional explosive charges explain the massive pothole at Ground Zero?

Is it even remotely plausible that the “pothole” was a natural formation? That’s the spin this New York Times article tries to put on it:

This monumental carving was the work of glaciers, which made their last retreat from these parts about 20,000 years ago, leaving profound gouges in the earth and rocks from the Palisades, the Ramapo Mountains and an area of northern New Jersey known as the Newark Basin.

Plumbing these glacial features and souvenirs has been critical in preparing the foundation for Tower 4 of the new World Trade Center, being built by Silverstein Properties. The concrete footings from which its columns rise must rest on firm bedrock. Engineers need a clear understanding of the rock’s contours.

“You want to make sure you’re not perching something on a ledge,” said Andrew Pontecorvo, a supervising structural engineer at Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers, which is working on the trade center project.

Engineers knew in advance that there were “discontinuities” in the bedrock at the southeast corner of the trade center site, where Tower 4 is situated. Some of these were revealed in the 1960s during the construction of the original slurry wall. (George J. Tamaro, who supervised that job for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, is a retired partner of Mueser Rutledge.)

And when parts of the slurry wall were rebuilt after 9/11, engineers found areas where the rock anchors that stabilize the wall would not hold, meaning there were voids in the bedrock.

Borings through the ground also showed large discrepancies in the elevation of the rock underneath. “It was extreme from the variation you would interpret to what we actually encountered,” Mr. Pontecorvo said.

Obviously, the bedrock topography could not be mapped with enough precision until all the soil was removed and the surface was fully exposed. But besides being an engineering necessity, the unearthing of geological features, especially a 40-foot depression known as a pothole, has offered scientists a rare window into the deep past.

“There are areas in local parks that have small vertical potholes exposed,” said Cheryl J. Moss, the senior geologist at Mueser Rutledge, “but I’m not aware of anything in the city with a whole, self-contained depression on this scale.”

Ms. Moss and Mr. Pontecorvo are scheduled to give an illustrated lecture on the site at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the Tribute W.T.C. Visitor Center, 120 Liberty Street, opposite the pothole.

It’s been called the Grand Canyon of Lower Manhattan,” Mr. Pontecorvo said.

Charles Merguerian, chairman of the geology department at Hofstra University and a consultant to Mueser Rutledge on the trade center project, put it even more simply: “Beautiful!”

It is very unusual to see such features near sea level,” he added.

Shown photographs of the rocks, Sidney Horenstein, a geologist and environmental educator emeritus at the American Museum of Natural History, said, “You don’t find such an array of rock types in the few places in the city that the glacial deposits are exposed.”

Across much of the trade center site, bedrock level is roughly 70 feet below street level. In the southeast corner, however, the pothole adds another 40 feet to the depth, meaning that its bottom is about 110 feet below street level.

Yet when the pothole filled with rainwater this summer, it looked like nothing so much as a little mountain pond. Crevices around the edge were filled with pockets of densely packed cobblestones, possibly some of the very stones that the glaciers used to do the carving.

“As the ice passed over New Jersey,” Ms. Moss explained, “it picked up local rocks such as red shale and sandstone and gray basalt from the Palisades. As ice melted from the advancing glacier, raging streams of water flowed in front of it. The strong currents picked up the sand, gravel and boulders and carried them downstream across the World Trade Center site.

“As these rocks bounced across the bedrock, essentially sandblasting the surface, the softer layers started to erode out and the harder rock left behind became polished. In places, the water swirled in whirlpools of varying sizes, carving out deep potholes and larger basins.”

Along the east side of the pothole, the rock layers run vertically — not horizontally. The result, where the surface has been carved away in a concave form, is an abstract canvas of swirling, concentric rings; not unlike a gouge in a wall that reveals many layers of old paint.

This speaks of a period far more ancient than the glaciers, about 500 million years ago, when the edges of the colliding North American and African continental plates got shuffled together.

“That’s when all this got pushed into a vertical orientation,” Dr. Merguerian said. He estimated that the rock around the pothole had once been 20 miles below the surface, based on the presence of a high-pressure mineral called kyanite.

Here are some pictures of the “Glacial Rock Formation at WTC Site

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Shills and Trolls: Paid to Support Israel on Message Boards and Forums

This post contains an excerpt from Dimitri Khalezov’s massive PDF 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11. It’s a 137 MB download.

Dimitri’s got a lot of good stuff in there and I haven’t finished reading it yet but I thought this section was particularly interesting.

Dimitri found a confession of a shill on the Above Top Secret forum. The shill was there to “support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.

It was removed after it was “deemed to be a hoax.” Dimitri thinks that it sounds legit and so do I. It sure sounds like something OBF, El Buggo, Simon Shack, Emmanuel Goldstein, Mark Bilk (aka the Cosmic Penguin), Peter Wakefield Sault, Pete Santilli, Thomas Potter, Andrew Johnson (aka S. Tiller) or the others would say if you could somehow get a confession out of them. Nearly every 9/11 researcher I’ve sent this to thinks this is legitimate. If you start going back and forth with the shills on the internet you will see what we are talking about.

Read it for yourselves and make your own minds.

I think it is important to quote here the entire confession that was published on this Internet forum:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826545/pg1

Here is its original text:

“I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. This site, ATS, was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so it’s something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me). She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. Intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.” I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chartrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.” Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not.

“Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

“Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

“No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chatrooms. It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings. If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” our trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need. As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on.

The site-specific info in the second binder included a brief history of each site, including recent flamewars, as well as info on what to avoid on each site so as not to get banned. It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for ATS, I did see they had a lot of info on your so called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges). “Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me. “These are the influential ones. Each of these is worth 50 to 100 of the lesser known names.” Each popular poster was classified as “hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent” to my goal. We were supposed to cultivate friendship with the friendly posters as well as the mods (basically, by brownnosing and sucking up), and there were even notes on strategies for dealing with specific hostile posters. The info was pretty detailed, but not perfect in every case. “If you can convert one of the hostile posters from the enemy side to our side, you get a nice bonus. But this doesn’t happen too often, sadly. So mostly you’ll be attacking them and trying to smear them.”

At first, like I said, my job was “meme-patrol.” This was pretty simple and repetitive; it involved countering memes and introducing new memes, and didn’t demand much in-depth knowledge of the subject. Mostly just repetitive posting based on the dialogue pairs in the “Strat” section of the first binder. A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done. I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.

The funny thing was, although I started the job with no strong opinions or political views, after a few weeks of this I became very emotionally wedded to the pro-Israel ideas I was pushing. There must be some psychological factor at work…a good salesman learns to honestly love the products he’s selling, I guess. It wasn’t long before my responses became fiery and passionate, and I began to learn more about the topic on my own. “This is a good sign,” my trainer told me. “It means you are ready for the next step: complex debate.”

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with. Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom. There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web). Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed. Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

I was also given the job of tying to find new recruits, people “like me” who had the personality type, ability to keep a secret, basic writing/thinking skills, and desperation necessary to sign on a shill. I was less successful at this part of the job, though, and I couldn’t find another in the time I was there.

After a while of doing this, I started to feel bad. Not because of the views I was pushing (as I said, I was first apolitical, then pro-Israel), but because of the dishonesty involved. If my arguments were so correct, I wondered, why did we have to do this in the first place? Shouldn’t truth propagate itself naturally, rather than through, well…propaganda? And who was behind this whole operation, anyway? Who was signing my paychecks? The stress of lying to my parents and friends about being a “consultant” was also getting to me. Finally, I said enough was enough. I quit in September 2011. Since then I’ve been working a series of unglamorous temp office jobs for lower pay. But at least I’m not making my living lying and heckling people who come online to express their views and exercise freedom of speech.

A few days ago I happened to be in the same neighborhood and on a whim thought I’d check out the old office. It turns out the operation is gone, having moved on. This, too, I understood, is part of their strategy: Don’t stay in the same place for too long, don’t keep the same name too long, move on after half a year or so. Keeping a low profile, finding new employees through word of mouth: All this is part of the shill way of life. But it is a deceptive way of life, and no matter how noble the goals (I remain pro-Israel, by the way), these sleazy means cannot be justified by the end.

This is my confession. I haven’t made up my mind yet about whether I want to talk more about this, so if I don’t respond to this thread, don’t be angry. But I think you should know: Shills exist. They are real. They walk among you, and they pay special attention to your popular gold-bordered WATS posters. You should be aware of this. What you choose to do with this awareness is up to you.

Yours,

ExShill

April 2012”

Dimitri Khalezov’s 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11

Dimitri Khalezov has recently released a new massive PDF 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11. Khalezov’s position is that three 150 KT underground nukes destroyed the WTC buildings aka “the big nuke theory” as it were. As most readers of this blog are aware I am a proponent of the mini-nuke theory. Fetzer and I have written an article entitled Busting 9/11 Myths: Nanothermite, Big Nukes and DEWs  that spells out the differences between the various theories of the World Trade Center’s destruction on 9/11.

Having said all of that Dimitri has done some excellent research on 9/11 and he makes a tremendous case for underground nuclear detonations on 9/11. He is certainly correct in that regard. Any serious 9/11 researcher should read this.

You can download the .zip file here. It’s a 137 MB download so be patient!

URGENT address of Dimitri Khalezov

THE FULL EDITION OF MY BOOK on 9/11thology called “The Third Truth about 9/11” is READY NOW!

Nuclear demolition of the World Trade Center explained there in more detail than it used to be, with a lot of newly discovered evidence added. Other 9/11 aspects such as the Pentagon missile attack, shooting down of Flight 93, Anthrax letters, mini-nukes’ “car”-bombings, as well as the 9/11 cover-up, shilling, and falsifying English dictionaries are addressed too. This time I made it into a real encyclopedia of 9/11 and that of nuclear terrorism in general.

If you wish to see some readers opinions, click here.

However, before you proceed to the download links, I would like you to read the following urgent address of mine, published five days prior to New Year celebrations (26 of December 2013):

Dear readers and readers to be.

You could still find direct download links for the full edition of my book on this page below. They are there, still, though, I am considering removing them any time soon.

I am sorry to inform you that since I made the full version of my book available for free download at the end of August, 2013, it was downloaded by more than 20000 (twenty thousand) people, at least a third of whom, according to my estimation, must have read this book.

However, despite the book was not actually “free”, but merely “free to download”, and this was stated clearly in its text, only a very few people have appreciated this step of mine.

During 4 (four) months that passed since, merely 20 people have paid for my book in one way or another.

Moreover, out of these 20, about a third were old friends of mine and people who used to donate even before downloading the book.

That is to say that the level of appreciation of my work was incredibly, ridiculously low – below 0.01%.

To be honest with you, even before that I knew that people were ungrateful in general, but I did not expect that awful digit of grateful people to be only 0.01%. At the worst case I was hoping that every fifth reader would appreciate it, or, at least – may be every tenth reader…

Look, folks, 0.01% is just a ridicule.

Are you so poor that you can’t afford paying a few bucks for the book that opens your eyes in regard to the most important perpetration of the 21st century, which is the 9/11 affair?

Well, I do believe that there are people who are poor like that (perhaps, somewhere in Darfur or in East Timor), but not in the capitalist West where everyone has a salary of at minimum several hundreds USD, but usually – a couple of thousands USD or more. I would like to remind you that in the West a lunch costs a few bucks, yet no person usually misses his or her lunch on account of being “too poor”. Everyone has his lunch 365 times a year, irrespectively of whether his is “poor” or not and irrespectively of whether he is “in debt” or not. Even those who are in debt always manage to find those few bucks to increase their debt and so – they pay for their daily lunch. Do you agree with this observation?

The book I am talking about is well over a thousand pages, and, with additional materials, it runs to almost a thousand and a half. To read it will take a few weeks of continuous reading, or a few months of casual reading.

So, that means those who read it, managed to find a lot of time to read it.

But why they don’t find just another couple of working hours making a few bucks for me, its author, and why don’t they find yet another hour – to find the way to transfer these few bucks for me?

Don’t you realize, folks, that my book was created during working hours of mine and I would like to have some cash for it – exactly like you do while working during the working hours of yours?

As I mentioned in the text of the book, I did not set the price – I left it entirely up to its reader. If you feel that my book costs merely 2 dollars – just send me these 2 dollars. If you feel it costs more – send me more. But a few bucks is what I really expect from every reader – just as would any other author expect from his or her book. Even if you are very poor and even if you are in debt – you could easily sacrifice a couple of lunches in order to express your gratitude for the material that requires a few weeks to read (have you ever heard of “fasting”? – it will also make you healthier in the process of expressing your gratitude 🙂

I would like to remind you that I am not greedy. I am sure that “naked man comes into This world and naked he will depart”. I duly realize that I am a mortal. However, as any other mortal in This life, I need some funds to pay for my food and living expenses (not to mention that I would like to have some extra funds to continue my research and to create more books, as well as to translate this book to other languages). Note that I have no salary, no pension pending my old age, no professional job, just nothing. I am a poor foreigner who lives in Thailand where foreigners are not allowed to do any unskilled work. That is why I can not work as a construction worker or as a dish-washer. I have no income whatsoever, except from donations and from payments for my book.

My financial situation is so desperate, that if not a couple of old good friends of mine who sent me money this time, I would not be able to survive these three months and by the New Year 2014 I would become a street beggar, while all my web sites, including this one, would disappear (have you ever heard that to host a web site also costs something?)

Do you realize it, my dear readers? I published the most explosive book of the 21 century that was, moreover, downloaded by over 20 thousand of eager readers, and yet, I was almost kicked out of my room (I do not rent an “apartment”, but merely a “room”; I can not afford anything bigger) because of not being able to pay for it. Do you find this situation normal, my dear “grateful” readers?

Below you could see all means you can use to send me the payment for the book (or to donate if you wish to donate).

There is my personal bank account in one of Thai banks in Bangkok, so you could use a standard international money transfer;

There is a way to send me a check of a foreign bank (in any currency) by a snail-mail or by a courier;

There is a way to send me cash via Western-Union system;

There is a way to send me funds via WebMoney (electronic money);

There is a way to send me funds via Bitcoin (electronic money);

At the worst case, you can send me money via PayPal;

Finally, if nothing of the above works for you, and yet you wish to donate, please, contact me personally and we will figure out the solution.

All details regarding to these modes of payment are listed on the web page here.

Sincerely yours,

Dimitri Khalezov.

Bangkok,

26 of December 2013

P.S. Happy New Year!   

My former urgent address is available on YouTube:

Sincerely yours, Dimitri Khalezov.