Contrasting uniformity and non-uniformity of WTC dust sample results of the Harrit et al. paper “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe”

Editor’s note: This post originally appeared on T Mark Hightower’s blog. Mark has left public 9/11 research and I was asked to re-post some of his old articles. This is the first of a series of posts from Mark’s old blog.

T Mark Hightower



Although the Harrit et al. paper claims great uniformity of results among all samples based on all the tests apart from the Differential Scanning Calorimeter (DSC) tests, this is in significant contrast to the tremendous lack of uniformity reflected in the DSC results.

Also, although the paper contains a rather doubtful statement regarding its findings in one part of the paper, it concludes with a strikingly confident conclusion in the final statement of the paper.


There are some weaknesses in the Differential Scanning Calorimeter (DSC) data that is presented in the paper (Harrit et al.) for the 4 dust samples.

There were 4 dust samples tested. Page 9 of the paper identifies them as

1 MacKinlay

2 Delassio/Breidenbach

3 Intermount

4 White

The DSC data is presented in the text of page 19, section 3, which refers to graphical results of Fig. 19 on page 20. One of the DSC traces is compared to a trace of published nanothermite data in Fig. 29 on page 25. The results are presented in Fig. 30 on page 27 in the form of bar graphs reporting units of kJ/g.

There is an oddity I want to point out before I get into the first weakness.

The data referred to on page 19 and in Fig. 19 appears to have not included sample 2 Delassio/Breidenbach, but instead has a MacKinlay 2 sample in its place to give a total of 4 samples tested. In Fig. 30 the 4 samples are clearly labeled as 1, 2, 3, and 4, so here it seems to imply that the 2 Delassio/Breidenbach sample is included. Interestingly, the numerical value of 3 kJ/g given in the text on page 19 for the MacKinlay 2 sample of Fig. 19 is the same or at least close to the same as the 2 (presumably) Delassio/Breidenbach sample of Fig. 30. Clarification from the authors should be sought to clear up this confusion.

So there were 4 separate dust samples, with multiple red/gray chips in each sample.

I will use the numerical values of energy release given in the text (page 19) as representing the values in the bar graph of Fig. 30 for the 4 WTC chip samples. These would be

Sample 1: 1.5 kJ/g

Sample 2: 3 kJ/g

Sample 3: 7.5 kJ/g

Sample 4: 6 kJ/g

As these four DSC data points are all we have, it is of note that there is tremendous scatter in this data. The average value is 4.5 and the standard deviation is 2.7. As two standard deviations is usually what is used when referring to a value being +/- some uncertainty, in rough terms, we would then say that the DSC data gives an average value of 4.5 kJ/g, with an uncertainty of +/- 100%.

It appears that only one red/gray chip was selected from each sample for DSC testing. If DSC tests had been done separately for multiple chips in each sample, then the question of whether the scatter in the data was present similarly within each of the samples could also have been addressed. You cannot find what you do not look for.

The paper offers some possible explanations for the scatter in the data. From page 19, section 3, it states,

“Variations in peak height as well as yield estimates are not surprising, since the mass used to determine the scale of the signal, shown in the DSC traces, included the mass of the gray layer. The gray layer was found to consist mostly of iron oxide so that it probably does not contribute to the exotherm, and yet this layer varies greatly in mass from chip to chip.”

Page 29, Conclusion 10. offers an explanation for higher total energy release than can be explained by the classic thermite reaction (true for samples 3 & 4)

“The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the classic thermite reaction.”

If citing gray layer variation and organic content is not enough to explain the tremendous variation in the results, another explanation is added on page 27, section 6. I will quote an entire paragraph so you can appreciate the context.

“It is striking that some of the red/gray chips release more energy in kJ/g than does ordinary thermite, as shown in the blue bar graphs above. The theoretical maximum for thermite is 3.9 kJ/g [27]. We suggest that the organic material in evidence in the red/gray chips is also highly energetic, most likely producing gas to provide explosive pressure. Again, conventional thermite is regarded as an incendiary whereas super-thermite, which may include organic ingredients for rapid gas generation, is considered a pyrotechnic or explosive [6, 24]. As this test was done in air it is possible that some of the enhancement of energy output may have come from air oxidation of the organic component.”

So the DSC tests were done in air so extra oxygen was present to help liberate energy from any organics that might be present.

I know there is very little data to go on, just 4 DSC scans of red/gray chips, but with the scatter in the data and the explanations offered to explain it, I get the impression that the red/gray chips are tremendously lacking in uniformity. Or else there is much inherent error in the experimental apparatus.

By having air and therefore a source of oxygen present in the DSC seems to be an error in method since it allows for the input of energy from outside the substance that is itself being measured for its energy content. From Fig. 30 Chip 3 liberates considerably more energy than the high explosive HMX, and Chip 4 also exceeds the HMX value, but only by a little. The HMX provides its own oxygen within its chemical makeup, so it would not depend upon additional oxygen present to liberate its full energy. (Be sure not to confuse energy release with detonation velocity, an issue I am not dealing with in this write-up.)

I would like to see what a DSC trace of pure HMX would look like. It would probably look quite different because it would start to release its energy at a lower temperature, the deflagration temperature of HMX being 287 deg C. (page 238, “Explosives,” 6th edition, Meyer et al., 2007)

In summary, the DSC data is extremely limited with much scatter and has a potential method error. Drawing firm conclusions from it is extremely dubious.


Variability in proportions of gray layer within the red/gray chips and organics present in the red layer are cited as explanations for the scatter in the DSC data. Let’s quantify these explanations to see what kind of variability of the specimens might account for the scatter in the data.

The energy release for thermite is cited as 3.9 kJ/g. For the lowest value from the DSC tests, 1.5 kJ/g for sample 1, let’s first assume for the sake of illustration that this specimen had a low value because it had no organics in the red layer (in other words it is essentially pure thermite), and the gray layer being predominantly iron oxide as the paper says, acted as excess reactant and therefore was essentially inert providing no energy in the DSC test. In this case, the red layer would have to be present at 38 % by weight and the gray layer present at 62 % within the specimen. The math is 1.5/3.9 = 0.38. In summary, this would be assuming no organics, 38% red layer, and 62% gray layer.

The above calculation is done as a base case for comparison, even though its assumption of no organics in the red layer goes against the major thrust of the conclusion of the Harrit et al. paper that the red layer is a form of nanothermite that includes organics.

The next calculation is an attempt to quantify the high end of the DSC data, 7.5 kJ/g for sample 3. The presence of organics is cited as the explanation for the high value by the paper. Pure high explosive HMX has a energy release of 5.2 kJ/g, so even if sample 3 were 100 % HMX, this could not account for the higher value of 7.5 kJ/g obtained by the DSC test. So, for the sake of illustration, I am going to assume that the organic present in the red layer has an energy release of twice that of HMX, or 10.4 kJ/g. To help account for the high value of 7.5 kJ/g for sample 3, I am also going to assume that it contains no gray layer. In other words I am going to assume that sample 3 is 100 % red layer material. Setting x = weight fraction thermite in the red layer, the math is 3.9x + 10.4(1-x) = 7.5. Solving for x gives 0.45. So based on the above assumptions the red layer would have to contain 45 % thermite by weight and 55 % organic. In summary, this would be 100% red layer, no gray layer, with the red layer made up of 45% thermitic material and 55% organics.

Let’s now go back to the low value case, 1.5 kJ/g for sample 1, and assume that it is made up of red layer (containing 45 % thermite and 55 % organic from the previous calculation) plus gray layer of inert excess iron oxide reactant. In this case then, the specimen would have to contain 20 % red layer and 80 % gray layer. The math is 1.5/7.5 = 0.2. In summary, this would be 20% red layer (made up of 45% thermite and 55% organic) and 80% gray layer.

Therefore, a very high degree of variability among the red/gray chips is necessary to explain the scatter in the DSC test data, unless there is significant error in the experimental apparatus and technique.

This is in contrast to these statements from the paper concerning the great uniformity of results.

From page 15, right column, it states, “From these data, it is determined that the red/gray chips from different WTC dust samples are extremely similar in their chemical and structural makeup. It is also shown that within the red layer there is an intimate mixing of the Fe-rich grains and Al/Si plate-like particles and that these particles are embedded in a carbon-rich matrix.”

From page 23, upper left column, it states, “The results clearly show the similarities of the red/gray chips from the different dust samples from all four sites.”


On page 25 of the paper, it says

“The red layer of the red/gray chips is most interesting in that it contains aluminum, iron and oxygen components which are intimately mixed at a scale of approximately 100 nanometers (nm) or less. Now we compare a DSC trace obtained for a WTC red/gray chip with a DSC trace obtained for known super-thermite (see Fig. (29)).”

Note that in Fig. 29 the trace of the WTC sample is really not all that similar to the known super-thermite. The WTC sample cited in Fig. 29 is the MacKinlay sample, although it does not say whether it is the MacKinlay 1 or MacKinlay 2 sample. But from Fig. 19, where 4 WTC DSC traces are plotted, for the four samples, MacKinlay 1, MacKinlay 2, Intermont, and White, the two MacKinlay samples are the lowest energy release traces. The other two, Intermont (sample 3), and White (sample 4) have much higher energy release, and deviate even more from the known super-thermite trace of Fig. 29.


With the tremendous scatter in the DSC data presented in the paper, and its implication for extreme non uniformity of the red/gray chips that I have tried to quantify, the question needs to be raised on all of the other tests that were performed to characterize the red/gray chips, and whether additional tests should have been done on other of the chips within the samples, to see if those tests also would have shown such high levels of non uniformity.


From page 25 of the paper, right column, first paragraph, the final sentence is

“We make no attempt to specify the particular form of nano-thermite present until more is learned about the red material and especially about the nature of the organic material it contains.” This statement expresses a lot of doubt about the findings.

From page 29 of the paper, final paragraph.

“Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.” This final conclusion statement of the paper expresses much less doubt.

The Harrit et al. paper cited in this article can be found here:

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe


Jim Fetzer Real Deal Appearance 2/10/14

You can listen to the show either by playing the clip in your browser or by downloading it from here.

Simon Shack and the “researchers” at the September Clues Forum have constructed their own mythology of the events of September 11, 2001. This blog post will further deconstruct the phony 9/11 mythology of the Clues Forum.

For the record here is the Myth that September Clues is advocating:

“TOUR GUIDE” to the September Clues research

It is fair to say the September Clues research has established these 4 main points:

1- The 9/11 imagery was nothing but a Hollywood-style film production, complete with actors in the role of ‘eye-witnesses’ or ‘firefighters’, staged ‘running crowds’, 3D-compositing and special cinematic effects. The ’9/11 movie’ was split into a number of short clips and sold to the TV audience as ‘newscasts’. The few clips featuring ‘airplanes’ (or dull silhouettes thereof) were computer-generated images – all of which in stark conflict with each other, as now comprehensively demonstrated in every imaginable manner, angle and method.

2- No commercial airliners were hijacked or – much less – crashed into the WTC towers, the Pentagon or the Shanksville field. No valid/verifiable records exist for : their airport logs/schedules, their numbered parts, their alleged passengers. Their reported speeds at near sea-level as well as the absurd visuals of their total, effortless disappearance into the WTC façades defy the laws of mechanics and physics – and the absence of visible wake vortexes in the WTC impact imagery also defies the laws of aerodynamics.

3- The World Trade Center Complex (9 buildings in all) were demolished with powerful explosives. No image-analyses of the tower collapses can help determine just what type of explosives were employed – since the videos are 3D animations and do not represent the real-life events. In reality, as they collapsed, the WTC complex was most likely enveloped by military-grade smoke obscurants. No real/private imagery exists of the morning’s events – ‘thanks’ to electromagnetic countermeasures.

4- No “3000″ people were trapped in the top floors/nor perished in the WTC towers. Only one thing was more important to the perps than avoiding a mass murder of 3000 US citizens : to sell the notion that “bogeyman Bin Laden” killed 3000 US citizens. We have renamed the ‘victims’ of these psy-operations “VICSIMS” (SIMulated VICtims). In fact, our research has seen the same pattern emerge in all the so-called “Al-Qaeda Terror Attacks” around the world (LONDON 7/7, MADRID 11, BALI, MUMBAI, etc…). In all logic, the very last aggravation the plotters behind these false-flag operations wish to have, are scores of real families hounding them forever with real questions and real class actions. Hence: NO real terror victims = Logical PsyOp rationale.

9/11 is but a giant – and still ongoing – money-making scam. It rotates around the most well-funded and profitable hoax of modern history. Everyone involved in the scheme is reaping a sizable return from their ‘investment bond’ which, naturally, has “SILENCE” printed all over it. For anyone to ‘speak out’ would be both ruinous and suicidal – a most distasteful option. To be sure, ‘suicidal heroics’ only exist in journalistic fairy-tales such as the outlandish news media’s narrative of 9/11 and its “nineteen religious fanatics”. The skeptics objecting that “too many people would have had to be in on this” fail to account for the most fundamental aspect of human nature: our survival instinct.

The master plan of 9/11 was to demolish the redundant, asbestos-filled WTC complex in Lower Manhattan – 9 buildings in all. The area would naturally be evacuated (as for all such demolitions) in order to prevent a slaughterhouse of dreadful proportions – not a good idea at all. To be sure, this was no mass murder scheme – just a formidable opportunity for massive financial gains and military propaganda. The military (and its various intelligence affiliates) would manage the ground logistics, such as securing the area, raising smokescreens to hide the proceedings from public view, and last but not least, electromagnetic countermeasures to keep any private cameras from filming the mayhem. The WTC complex was thus ‘safely’ destroyed in bright daylight. It was a magician’s trick, pulled off by sleight of hand to fool the few (the NY onlookers) – and with computer graphics to fool the world (the TV viewers).

Simon Shack: Twin Towers were Demolished by Dynamite

Below is an audio clip of Ab Irato reading a Simon Shack post.

Here are the main points:

1. All of the 9/11 events were fake including the collapse of the Twin Towers. Television viewers were shown pre-produced movie footage.

2. The actual collapse of the Twin Towers wouldn’t be shown on TV.

3. Support for theories that claim exotic demolition methods were used on the WTC were derived from fake images and videos so those theories must be rejected.

4. WTC complex was hidden from view by military grade smoke obscurants before the demolition took place.

5. 12 years of bickering and circular debates about what explosives were actually used.

6. Dynamite has been used in all building demolitions. Dynamite was up for the job in 2001.

7. Biltmore hotel was demolished in 1977. The Biltmore was a 245 foot, 28-story high steel framed building. CDI needed to place charges on both sides of steel beams.

8. Most New Yorkers probably watched the Twin Towers getting demolished on TV.

Father Frank Morales Describes Ground Zero

Below is an audio clip of Frank Morales w/ Jim Fetzer from 10/2/07 describing first hand what he witnessed at Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath of the destruction of the WTC buildings. Compare what Frank has to say versus the September Clues version of Ground Zero. The Clues Forum guys would have you believe that the WTC complex was merely a movie set. That stands in stark contrast to the horror show that Frank and many other witnesses described at Ground Zero.

1. No chairs or desks found at Ground Zero.

2. The soil was rich and moist from the bodies of the dead.

3. 1,100 bodies vaporized. DNA was mixed in from different bodies.

4. Collapse of the buildings wouldn’t vaporize 1,100 people.

5. Very little debris found. Jet fuel can’t explain this.

6. The North Tower was referred to as the “2,000 degree pit.” The cherry picker removed pieces of molten steel from below ground level.

7. Workers were going around with red 1 lb bags collecting 1 inch or less pieces of bodies.

Can dynamite or kerosene explain the kind of devastation that Frank describes at Ground Zero? Of course not. Frank is clearly describing behemoth skyscrapers that were reduced to dust and 1,100 people that were completely vaporized. Only nuclear bombs can account for what was witnessed at Ground Zero.

Ground Zero

The term ground zero (sometimes also known as surface zero as distinguished from zero point describes the point on the Earth’s surface closest to a detonation. In the case of an explosion above the ground, ground zero refers to the point on the ground directly below the detonation (see hypocenter).

The term has often been associated with nuclear explosions and other large bombs, but is also used in relation to earthquakes, epidemics and other disasters to mark the point of the most severe damage or destruction. The term is often re-used for disasters that have a geographic or conceptual epicenter.

The term was military slang, used at the Trinity site where the weapon tower for the first nuclear weapon was at “point zero”, and moved into general use very shortly after the end of World War II. At Hiroshima, the hypocenter of the attack was Shima Hospital.

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Ground Zero at Hiroshima

El Buggo and a number of other shills on the internet are claiming that nuclear weapons don’t exist. El Buggo states that he isn’t able to find Ground Zero at Hiroshima (no big crater) so he doubts that Hiroshima was actually nuked. El Buggo states that Hiroshima was merely firebombed and that the government is claiming it was nuked as an intimidation tactic. El Buggo is completely full of it. He’s most likely a paid shill so anything he says can be discounted.

The nuke-denying disinformationists attempt to play on the ignorance of the public of the actual effects of nuclear weapons. In this case an air-burst atomic weapon not leaving a crater at Ground Zero.

For the record here is a link to a 360° panorama taken by the US Army at Ground Zero in Hiroshima.

Hiroshima after the Atomic Bomb – Ground Zero (5 of 5) by US Army in Japan

The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a 15 kiloton bomb that was primitive by today’s standards. Only 1.38% of its uranium actually fissioned. The main effect of the bomb was fire. The mass fire burned for 6 hours and consumed 4.5 square miles of the city.

The Little Boy Bomb:

Dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, it was the first nuclear weapon used in a war. Following are some approximate statistics for Little Boy. If you require more extensive information on this weapon, please contact us:

Weight: 9,700 lbs

Length: 10 ft.; Diameter: 28 in.

Fuel: Highly enriched uranium; “Oralloy”

Uranium Fuel: approx. 140 lbs; target – 85 lbs and projectile – 55 lbs

Target case, barrel, uranium projectile, and other main parts ferried to Tinian Island via USS Indianapolis

Uranium target component ferried to Tinian via C-54 aircraft of the 509th Composite Group

Efficiency of weapon: poor

Approx. 1.38% of the uranium fuel actually fissioned

Explosive force: 15,000 tons of TNT equivalent

Use: Dropped on Japanese city of Hiroshima; August 6, 1945

Delivery: B-29 Enola Gay piloted by Col. Paul Tibbets

Nuclear Weapon Thermal Effects

Large amounts of electromagnetic radiation in the visible, infrared, and ultraviolet regions of the electromagnetic spectrum are emitted from the surface of the fireball within the first minute or less after detonation. This thermal radiation travels outward from the fireball at the speed of light, 300,000 km/sec. The chief hazard of thermal radiation is the production of burns and eye injuries in exposed personnel. Such thermal injuries may occur even at distances where blast and initial nuclear radiation effects are minimal. Absorption of thermal radiation will also cause the ignition of combustible materials and may lead to fires which then spread rapidly among the debris left by the blast.

The fireball from a nuclear explosion reaches blackbody temperatures greater than 107 °K, so that the energy at which most photons are emitted corresponds to the x-ray region of the electromagnetic spectrum. For detonations occurring below 30,000 m (100,000 ft) these X-rays are quickly absorbed in the atmosphere, and the energy is reradiated at blackbody temperatures below 10,000 °K. Both of these temperatures are well above that reached in conventional chemical explosions, about 5,000 °K. For detonations below 100,000 feet, 35 percent to 45 percent of the nuclear yield is effectively radiated as thermal energy.

In addition to the high temperature of the nuclear fireball, the blackbody radiation is emitted in a characteristic two-peaked pulse with the first peak being due to the radiating surface of the outrunning shock. As the fireball expands and its energy is deposited in an ever-increasing volume its temperature decreases and the transfer of energy by thermal radiation becomes less rapid. At this point, the blast wave front begins to catch up with the surface of the fireball and then moves ahead of it, a process called hydrodynamic separation. Due to the tremendous compression of the atmosphere by the blast wave, the air in front of the fireball is heated to incandescence. Thus, after hydrodynamic separation, the fireball actually consists of two concentric regions: the hot inner core known as the isothermal sphere; and an outer layer of luminous shock-heated air.

The outer layer initially absorbs much of the radiation from the isothermal sphere and hence the apparent surface temperature of the fireball and the amount of radiation emitted from it decreases after separation. But, as the shock front advances still farther, the temperature of the shocked air diminishes and it becomes increasingly transparent. As the shock front temperature drops below 6,000 °K, thermal radiation decreases when the shock front becomes transparent to radiation from the interior. This occurs between 10-5 and 10-2 seconds after detonation. At about 0.1 second after detonation, the shock front becomes sufficiently transparent that radiation from the innermost, hottest regions becomes visible, producing a second thermal peak. This results in an unmasking of the still incandescent isothermal region and an increase in the apparent surface temperature of the fireball. This phenomena is referred to as breakaway. Before the second peak begins the fireball has radiated only about one quarter of its total energy. About 99 percent of the total thermal energy is contained in the second pulse. The duration of this pulse depends on the yield of the weapon and the height of burst (HOB); it ranges from only about 0.4 s for a 1 KT air burst to more than 20 s for a 10 MT explosion.

The rate of thermal emission from the fireball is governed by its apparent surface temperature. The thermal output of a nuclear air burst will then occur in two pulses), an initial pulse, consisting primarily of ultraviolet radiation, which contains only about 1% of the total radiant energy of the explosion and is terminated as the shock front moves ahead of the fireball, and a second pulse which occurs after breakaway.

The Ground Zero “Pothole”

Below is an excerpt from pages 390-3 of Zhalezov’s 9/11thology:

Independent confirmations of the nuclear demolition. Molten rock, thermal maps, “Ice Age glaciers” and “hard evidence”

One might ask probably another question – are there any independent sources that could confirm that there were indeed three underground nuclear explosions in Lower Manhattan, apart from the ravings of the author of these lines and other “conspiracy theorists” of similar kind – such as above mentioned Mr. Tahil?

Firstly, I would like to state that Mr. Tahil claims that there were only two underground nuclear explosions, not actually three. This is, by the way, yet another clear indication that he might be closely related to those culprits from the WTC demolition team. If he were an honest researcher, then, considering his supernatural shrewdness, he would never fail to notice the third nuclear demolition event – in regard to the WTC-7. To answer the actual question – yes, there are some independent sources, which indirectly testify to the same effect as the author of these lines.

An unprecedented article titled “Pictured: The 40ft ‘pothole’ that shows Ground Zero was once the site of an Ice Age glacier” appeared simultaneously in several newspapers, for example, in the UK “Mail”, published online on September 23, 2008.

The article featured quite an interesting photograph showing the excavated “bathtub” at “Ground Zero” along with an odd, giant, so-called “pothole” in the spot of one of the former Twin Towers. Edges of the “pothole” appeared to be covered in molten rock. There were actually three pictures of the so-called “potholes” – two of them inserted into the above mentioned article, and one more photo of the same series was used in another news article dealing with the same issue. Below is one of the first two:


Here is the second photograph from that article:


Proof of ice: The giant ‘pothole’, seen in the lower half of this picture, is proof the World Trade Centre towers stood on what was once ground covered by an Ice Age glacier

You could really appreciate the description under the above photo… I mean, you could really appreciate the level of the desperation of the U.S. Government officials and their spin-doctors, who were tasked with the near impossible task – to say something comprehensible in regard to the incriminating cavities that had nothing to do with either the “kerosene”, nor with the supposed “mini-nukes”.

Yet, an even more seditious picture was leaked to the public at about the same time; it belonged to the same series of the so-called “potholes” photos. This one came with the Associated Press’ article published by “Science on”. The article was named “Ice Age geology revealed at Ground Zero. World Trade Center dig uncovers 20,000-year-old, 40-foot-deep pothole”. The actual article could be found on this MSNBC news web page (at least, it was still there in the last days of December 2012).

The below one is that seditious photo showing the smooth edges of the molten rock I am talking about.


These utterly seditious pictures were apparently taken illegally, since it was strictly prohibited to bring any photographic equipment into “ground zero” area, even when these words were still spelled with low-case letters, and when there were thousands of ground zero responders clearing enormous piles of the debris and searching for survivors.

It would be even more illegal to make such pictures of “Ground Zero” when the majority of the initial responders were banned from the site and only less than a hundred of the highly trusted people remained there to fix the unexplainable underground cavities.

Dimitri’s footnote:

On November 2nd, 2001, NY Mayor Giuliani suddenly and without any seeming reason has ordered city officials to limit the number of rescue workers trying to recover victims’ bodies to 25 each from the Port Authority police, NYPD and FDNY, and an additional 10 firefighters for fire suppression – which caused deep resentment among the firefighters and even some scuffles with the police – deployed to protect “Ground Zero” from those unwanted firefighters.


Can conventional explosive charges explain the massive pothole at Ground Zero?

Is it even remotely plausible that the “pothole” was a natural formation? That’s the spin this New York Times article tries to put on it:

This monumental carving was the work of glaciers, which made their last retreat from these parts about 20,000 years ago, leaving profound gouges in the earth and rocks from the Palisades, the Ramapo Mountains and an area of northern New Jersey known as the Newark Basin.

Plumbing these glacial features and souvenirs has been critical in preparing the foundation for Tower 4 of the new World Trade Center, being built by Silverstein Properties. The concrete footings from which its columns rise must rest on firm bedrock. Engineers need a clear understanding of the rock’s contours.

“You want to make sure you’re not perching something on a ledge,” said Andrew Pontecorvo, a supervising structural engineer at Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers, which is working on the trade center project.

Engineers knew in advance that there were “discontinuities” in the bedrock at the southeast corner of the trade center site, where Tower 4 is situated. Some of these were revealed in the 1960s during the construction of the original slurry wall. (George J. Tamaro, who supervised that job for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, is a retired partner of Mueser Rutledge.)

And when parts of the slurry wall were rebuilt after 9/11, engineers found areas where the rock anchors that stabilize the wall would not hold, meaning there were voids in the bedrock.

Borings through the ground also showed large discrepancies in the elevation of the rock underneath. “It was extreme from the variation you would interpret to what we actually encountered,” Mr. Pontecorvo said.

Obviously, the bedrock topography could not be mapped with enough precision until all the soil was removed and the surface was fully exposed. But besides being an engineering necessity, the unearthing of geological features, especially a 40-foot depression known as a pothole, has offered scientists a rare window into the deep past.

“There are areas in local parks that have small vertical potholes exposed,” said Cheryl J. Moss, the senior geologist at Mueser Rutledge, “but I’m not aware of anything in the city with a whole, self-contained depression on this scale.”

Ms. Moss and Mr. Pontecorvo are scheduled to give an illustrated lecture on the site at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the Tribute W.T.C. Visitor Center, 120 Liberty Street, opposite the pothole.

It’s been called the Grand Canyon of Lower Manhattan,” Mr. Pontecorvo said.

Charles Merguerian, chairman of the geology department at Hofstra University and a consultant to Mueser Rutledge on the trade center project, put it even more simply: “Beautiful!”

It is very unusual to see such features near sea level,” he added.

Shown photographs of the rocks, Sidney Horenstein, a geologist and environmental educator emeritus at the American Museum of Natural History, said, “You don’t find such an array of rock types in the few places in the city that the glacial deposits are exposed.”

Across much of the trade center site, bedrock level is roughly 70 feet below street level. In the southeast corner, however, the pothole adds another 40 feet to the depth, meaning that its bottom is about 110 feet below street level.

Yet when the pothole filled with rainwater this summer, it looked like nothing so much as a little mountain pond. Crevices around the edge were filled with pockets of densely packed cobblestones, possibly some of the very stones that the glaciers used to do the carving.

“As the ice passed over New Jersey,” Ms. Moss explained, “it picked up local rocks such as red shale and sandstone and gray basalt from the Palisades. As ice melted from the advancing glacier, raging streams of water flowed in front of it. The strong currents picked up the sand, gravel and boulders and carried them downstream across the World Trade Center site.

“As these rocks bounced across the bedrock, essentially sandblasting the surface, the softer layers started to erode out and the harder rock left behind became polished. In places, the water swirled in whirlpools of varying sizes, carving out deep potholes and larger basins.”

Along the east side of the pothole, the rock layers run vertically — not horizontally. The result, where the surface has been carved away in a concave form, is an abstract canvas of swirling, concentric rings; not unlike a gouge in a wall that reveals many layers of old paint.

This speaks of a period far more ancient than the glaciers, about 500 million years ago, when the edges of the colliding North American and African continental plates got shuffled together.

“That’s when all this got pushed into a vertical orientation,” Dr. Merguerian said. He estimated that the rock around the pothole had once been 20 miles below the surface, based on the presence of a high-pressure mineral called kyanite.

Here are some pictures of the “Glacial Rock Formation at WTC Site





Shills and Trolls: Paid to Support Israel on Message Boards and Forums

This post contains an excerpt from Dimitri Khalezov’s massive PDF 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11. It’s a 137 MB download.

Dimitri’s got a lot of good stuff in there and I haven’t finished reading it yet but I thought this section was particularly interesting.

Dimitri found a confession of a shill on the Above Top Secret forum. The shill was there to “support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.

It was removed after it was “deemed to be a hoax.” Dimitri thinks that it sounds legit and so do I. It sure sounds like something OBF, El Buggo, Simon Shack, Emmanuel Goldstein, Mark Bilk (aka the Cosmic Penguin), Peter Wakefield Sault, Pete Santilli, Thomas Potter, Andrew Johnson (aka S. Tiller) or the others would say if you could somehow get a confession out of them. Nearly every 9/11 researcher I’ve sent this to thinks this is legitimate. If you start going back and forth with the shills on the internet you will see what we are talking about.

Read it for yourselves and make your own minds.

I think it is important to quote here the entire confession that was published on this Internet forum:

Here is its original text:

“I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. This site, ATS, was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so it’s something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me). She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. Intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.” I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chartrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.” Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not.

“Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

“Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

“No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chatrooms. It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings. If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” our trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need. As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on.

The site-specific info in the second binder included a brief history of each site, including recent flamewars, as well as info on what to avoid on each site so as not to get banned. It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for ATS, I did see they had a lot of info on your so called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges). “Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me. “These are the influential ones. Each of these is worth 50 to 100 of the lesser known names.” Each popular poster was classified as “hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent” to my goal. We were supposed to cultivate friendship with the friendly posters as well as the mods (basically, by brownnosing and sucking up), and there were even notes on strategies for dealing with specific hostile posters. The info was pretty detailed, but not perfect in every case. “If you can convert one of the hostile posters from the enemy side to our side, you get a nice bonus. But this doesn’t happen too often, sadly. So mostly you’ll be attacking them and trying to smear them.”

At first, like I said, my job was “meme-patrol.” This was pretty simple and repetitive; it involved countering memes and introducing new memes, and didn’t demand much in-depth knowledge of the subject. Mostly just repetitive posting based on the dialogue pairs in the “Strat” section of the first binder. A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done. I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.

The funny thing was, although I started the job with no strong opinions or political views, after a few weeks of this I became very emotionally wedded to the pro-Israel ideas I was pushing. There must be some psychological factor at work…a good salesman learns to honestly love the products he’s selling, I guess. It wasn’t long before my responses became fiery and passionate, and I began to learn more about the topic on my own. “This is a good sign,” my trainer told me. “It means you are ready for the next step: complex debate.”

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with. Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom. There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web). Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed. Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

I was also given the job of tying to find new recruits, people “like me” who had the personality type, ability to keep a secret, basic writing/thinking skills, and desperation necessary to sign on a shill. I was less successful at this part of the job, though, and I couldn’t find another in the time I was there.

After a while of doing this, I started to feel bad. Not because of the views I was pushing (as I said, I was first apolitical, then pro-Israel), but because of the dishonesty involved. If my arguments were so correct, I wondered, why did we have to do this in the first place? Shouldn’t truth propagate itself naturally, rather than through, well…propaganda? And who was behind this whole operation, anyway? Who was signing my paychecks? The stress of lying to my parents and friends about being a “consultant” was also getting to me. Finally, I said enough was enough. I quit in September 2011. Since then I’ve been working a series of unglamorous temp office jobs for lower pay. But at least I’m not making my living lying and heckling people who come online to express their views and exercise freedom of speech.

A few days ago I happened to be in the same neighborhood and on a whim thought I’d check out the old office. It turns out the operation is gone, having moved on. This, too, I understood, is part of their strategy: Don’t stay in the same place for too long, don’t keep the same name too long, move on after half a year or so. Keeping a low profile, finding new employees through word of mouth: All this is part of the shill way of life. But it is a deceptive way of life, and no matter how noble the goals (I remain pro-Israel, by the way), these sleazy means cannot be justified by the end.

This is my confession. I haven’t made up my mind yet about whether I want to talk more about this, so if I don’t respond to this thread, don’t be angry. But I think you should know: Shills exist. They are real. They walk among you, and they pay special attention to your popular gold-bordered WATS posters. You should be aware of this. What you choose to do with this awareness is up to you.



April 2012”

Dimitri Khalezov’s 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11

Dimitri Khalezov has recently released a new massive PDF 9/11thology: The “third” truth about 9/11. Khalezov’s position is that three 150 KT underground nukes destroyed the WTC buildings aka “the big nuke theory” as it were. As most readers of this blog are aware I am a proponent of the mini-nuke theory. Fetzer and I have written an article entitled Busting 9/11 Myths: Nanothermite, Big Nukes and DEWs  that spells out the differences between the various theories of the World Trade Center’s destruction on 9/11.

Having said all of that Dimitri has done some excellent research on 9/11 and he makes a tremendous case for underground nuclear detonations on 9/11. He is certainly correct in that regard. Any serious 9/11 researcher should read this.

You can download the .zip file here. It’s a 137 MB download so be patient!

URGENT address of Dimitri Khalezov

THE FULL EDITION OF MY BOOK on 9/11thology called “The Third Truth about 9/11″ is READY NOW!

Nuclear demolition of the World Trade Center explained there in more detail than it used to be, with a lot of newly discovered evidence added. Other 9/11 aspects such as the Pentagon missile attack, shooting down of Flight 93, Anthrax letters, mini-nukes’ “car”-bombings, as well as the 9/11 cover-up, shilling, and falsifying English dictionaries are addressed too. This time I made it into a real encyclopedia of 9/11 and that of nuclear terrorism in general.

If you wish to see some readers opinions, click here.

However, before you proceed to the download links, I would like you to read the following urgent address of mine, published five days prior to New Year celebrations (26 of December 2013):

Dear readers and readers to be.

You could still find direct download links for the full edition of my book on this page below. They are there, still, though, I am considering removing them any time soon.

I am sorry to inform you that since I made the full version of my book available for free download at the end of August, 2013, it was downloaded by more than 20000 (twenty thousand) people, at least a third of whom, according to my estimation, must have read this book.

However, despite the book was not actually “free”, but merely “free to download”, and this was stated clearly in its text, only a very few people have appreciated this step of mine.

During 4 (four) months that passed since, merely 20 people have paid for my book in one way or another.

Moreover, out of these 20, about a third were old friends of mine and people who used to donate even before downloading the book.

That is to say that the level of appreciation of my work was incredibly, ridiculously low – below 0.01%.

To be honest with you, even before that I knew that people were ungrateful in general, but I did not expect that awful digit of grateful people to be only 0.01%. At the worst case I was hoping that every fifth reader would appreciate it, or, at least – may be every tenth reader…

Look, folks, 0.01% is just a ridicule.

Are you so poor that you can’t afford paying a few bucks for the book that opens your eyes in regard to the most important perpetration of the 21st century, which is the 9/11 affair?

Well, I do believe that there are people who are poor like that (perhaps, somewhere in Darfur or in East Timor), but not in the capitalist West where everyone has a salary of at minimum several hundreds USD, but usually – a couple of thousands USD or more. I would like to remind you that in the West a lunch costs a few bucks, yet no person usually misses his or her lunch on account of being “too poor”. Everyone has his lunch 365 times a year, irrespectively of whether his is “poor” or not and irrespectively of whether he is “in debt” or not. Even those who are in debt always manage to find those few bucks to increase their debt and so – they pay for their daily lunch. Do you agree with this observation?

The book I am talking about is well over a thousand pages, and, with additional materials, it runs to almost a thousand and a half. To read it will take a few weeks of continuous reading, or a few months of casual reading.

So, that means those who read it, managed to find a lot of time to read it.

But why they don’t find just another couple of working hours making a few bucks for me, its author, and why don’t they find yet another hour – to find the way to transfer these few bucks for me?

Don’t you realize, folks, that my book was created during working hours of mine and I would like to have some cash for it – exactly like you do while working during the working hours of yours?

As I mentioned in the text of the book, I did not set the price – I left it entirely up to its reader. If you feel that my book costs merely 2 dollars – just send me these 2 dollars. If you feel it costs more – send me more. But a few bucks is what I really expect from every reader – just as would any other author expect from his or her book. Even if you are very poor and even if you are in debt – you could easily sacrifice a couple of lunches in order to express your gratitude for the material that requires a few weeks to read (have you ever heard of “fasting”? – it will also make you healthier in the process of expressing your gratitude :)

I would like to remind you that I am not greedy. I am sure that “naked man comes into This world and naked he will depart”. I duly realize that I am a mortal. However, as any other mortal in This life, I need some funds to pay for my food and living expenses (not to mention that I would like to have some extra funds to continue my research and to create more books, as well as to translate this book to other languages). Note that I have no salary, no pension pending my old age, no professional job, just nothing. I am a poor foreigner who lives in Thailand where foreigners are not allowed to do any unskilled work. That is why I can not work as a construction worker or as a dish-washer. I have no income whatsoever, except from donations and from payments for my book.

My financial situation is so desperate, that if not a couple of old good friends of mine who sent me money this time, I would not be able to survive these three months and by the New Year 2014 I would become a street beggar, while all my web sites, including this one, would disappear (have you ever heard that to host a web site also costs something?)

Do you realize it, my dear readers? I published the most explosive book of the 21 century that was, moreover, downloaded by over 20 thousand of eager readers, and yet, I was almost kicked out of my room (I do not rent an “apartment”, but merely a “room”; I can not afford anything bigger) because of not being able to pay for it. Do you find this situation normal, my dear “grateful” readers?

Below you could see all means you can use to send me the payment for the book (or to donate if you wish to donate).

There is my personal bank account in one of Thai banks in Bangkok, so you could use a standard international money transfer;

There is a way to send me a check of a foreign bank (in any currency) by a snail-mail or by a courier;

There is a way to send me cash via Western-Union system;

There is a way to send me funds via WebMoney (electronic money);

There is a way to send me funds via Bitcoin (electronic money);

At the worst case, you can send me money via PayPal;

Finally, if nothing of the above works for you, and yet you wish to donate, please, contact me personally and we will figure out the solution.

All details regarding to these modes of payment are listed on the web page here.

Sincerely yours,

Dimitri Khalezov.


26 of December 2013

P.S. Happy New Year!   

My former urgent address is available on YouTube:

Sincerely yours, Dimitri Khalezov.

Simon Shack, OBF and the 9/11 “September Clueless” Distractors


By Don Fox, Ian Greenhalgh and Jim Fetzer

Of all the positions that have been taken about 9/11, which range from the “official” collapse theory to the use of nanothermite to conventional explosives to DEWs, mini nukes or large, from a purely philosophical point of view, perhaps the most extreme is that adopted by Simon Shack (SS) and his followers, including onebornfree (obf), who claim that the footage of the destruction sequence in New York City is fake and unreliable. This is striking because that footage has virtually universally been regarded as some of the most important evidence about what actually happened there on 9/11. Since the Twin Towers are shown blowing apart in every direction from the top down, for example, while being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, it serves as the foundation for one line of argument that demonstrated the “official” account cannot possibly be true, since the Twin Towers are not undergoing any kind of collapse. If all of the videos had been faked, one might have expected they would show the towers collapsing, not blowing apart in every direction. And this is not the most bizarre of their positions.

Here is a sample of the kinds of visual studies that support the conversion of the towers into dust:

Simon Shack and onebornfree, alas, have never offered the least indication of what they think we should have seen, had we had access to authentic video footage. But there are many other kinds of evidence which goes far beyond the visual evidence:

(1) They were standing, then they were gone.

(2) It happened in a very brief period of time.

(3) Millions of cubic yards of dust emerged.

(4) They were destroyed below ground level.

(5) We have the so-called “toasted cars”

(6) And massive parts blown great distances

(7) There were videos and there were photos.

(8) There were many witnesses observing.

(9) We have cancer rates among responders.

(10) We have USGS dust samples.

(11) We have seismic readings.

(12) We have acoustical recordings.

The evidence derived from these sources can be used to sort out various alternative possibilities:

(h1) natural causes (earthquake, tornado,…)

(h2) collapse due to plane crashes and fires.

(h3) classic controlled demolitions (a pair).

(h4) non-conventional mode of destruction;

(h4a) lasers, masers or plasmoids;

(h4b) directed energy weaponry;

(h4c) nukes (large/small/micro/mini/)

So far the evidence most strongly supports (h4c), which we have explained repeatedly in a series of articles beginning with “9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings II”.

The SS/obf Gambit

SS and obf do not discuss the evidence apart from the video footage and never address the question of why we cannot possibly know what happened on the basis of the totality of the evidence available for study. Instead, in response to the observation that the video footage is taken from many locations and perspectives, some from the air and some from across the Hudson River, where it all “hangs together” in the right way, they go on the attack, as in this post from obf attacking Jim Fetzer for making this argument:

1] there is never any need or requirement for the investigating “scientist” to ever closely scrutinize/compare even one of the 911 videos or photos, both with other 911 photos/videos, nor with pre-911 imagery, before accepting those videos/photos as indisputably genuine evidence.

2] there is never any need/requirement for the investigating “scientist” to ever try to authenticate even one of the alleged authors of any of the videos/photos before accepting their videos/photos as indisputably genuine evidence.

3] there is never any need/requirement for the investigating “scientist” to ever do extensive background checks on any/all alleged eyewitnesses and their out of court, not under oath testimony before accepting their testimony as indisputably genuine evidence. The investigating “scientist” is perfectly free to claim anything that he/she feels is real is in fact real evidence, based on nothing more than personal bias/whim.

If, dear reader, any of the above 3 points even remotely apply within the general world of scientific research, [i.e. outside of 911 research] , and Mr Fetzer’s “scientific methodology” [ i.e. "if it looks good without closely checking/crosschecking then its genuine"], is simply par for the course, then I would suggest that the whole field of scientific research is in very, very deep trouble.

But this is a grossly exaggerated distortion of Jim’s actual position that is easier to attack, which makes it a nice example of the straw man fallacy. 1), 2) and 3) would appropriate if there were good reasons to doubt the photographic and video record. We know that to be the true in the case of the plane videos–and we have taken them apart. But obf and SS have really not given us any good reasons to doubt that the voluminous record of destruction videos and photos are fake.

There are too many from too many directions of enormous variation in quality, including of high definition, to take their claims seriously. At one point I looked at the wavy clouds of smoke with their repetition and changes in the background and color and tint variations, all of which appear to be post-production in messing with those photos and films–not necessarily for disinformational purposes, but because of multiple cases of copying and other sources of minor distortions.

Instead of contributing to SOLVING THE PROBLEM of what actually happened in New York City on 9/11, THEY DECLARE THE PROBLEM TO BE UNSOLVABLE. Here is some of the most fascinating footage that is incompatible with standard explosives or with any kind of collapse theory:

That is completely unscientific, where ofb’s complete lack of understanding of scientific method is no where more manifest than in his disregard for the rest of the evidence, which we enumerated as (1) through (12) above. Indeed, it is a basic principle of scientific reasoning that it be based upon all the evidence available. Failing to do so entails the commission of the fallacy of special pleading, which is common with politicians, editorial writers and used-car salesmen. That is where he stands.

That SS and obf even deny the existence of nuclear weapons tells me we are not dealing simply with persons of diminished capacity for serious research but demonstrable fakes and frauds. And while Clare will continue to treat them with kindness, it has become all too clear that they are shilling for Israel by doing their best to conceal that the towers were nuked and they must have been Israeli.

The US nuclear arsenal is under very tight but not perfect control, while Israeli nukes are not. Israel has not even admitted that it has a vast stockpile of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons–though it is common knowledge in the Middle East and among experts. SS and obf are using the pretense of science to attack those who are exposing the truth about 9/11, as Don Fox and Ian Greenhalgh explain in the study that follows.

By Don Fox and Ian Greenhalgh

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” – Vladimir Lenin

Simon Shack, hoi.polloi, Ab Irato, El Buggo and Onebornfree are the latest disinfo crew to attempt to conceal the nuclear demolition of the World Trade Center buildings on 9/11 by any and all means necessary. Preceding them have been such luminaries of the “Truth Movement” as Steve Jones, Richard Gage, Christopher Bollyn, Mark Bilk, Judy Wood, Andrew Johnson, Thomas Potter, Emmanuel Goldstein, S. Tiller and Pete Santilli among others.

A lot of effort has gone into constructing various ruses to fool the public. The Official Conspiracy Theory posits that 19 Islamic hijackers wielding box cutters were responsible for all of the destruction. The woefulness of that theory became readily apparent soon after 9/11 and it gave rise to a number of alternative theories.

The first to gain prominence was the pyrotechnic nanothermite promoted by Jones, Gage, Bilk and Bollyn among others. Alas non-explosive nanothermite has no explanatory power for what happened to the WTC buildings as has been previously documented. As the inadequacy of the nanothermite theory became apparent Judy Wood’s directed energy weapon (DEW) non-theory started to gain prominence.

While Dr. Wood claims not to have a theory, it states plainly on the cover of her book Where Did the Towers Go? “Evidence of Directed Free-energy Technology on 9/11″ that there is evidence of directed free-energy (Tesla) technology used on 9/11. A key element Wood’s position is that no bombs (nuclear or conventional) were used on 9/11. Dr. Wood’s non-theory runs out of steam once you realize that the WTC buildings exploded, high temperatures persisted at the WTC site for six months after 9/11 and that evidence for fission and fusion abound at Ground Zero.

However, the indefensibility of the Judy Wood Cult’s non-theory pales in comparison to the utterly ludicrous rantings of the September Clues forum. Simon Shack and others have constructed an utterly bizarre 9/11 mythology which would have you believe that the Twin Towers were completely vacant after the 1993 bombing, that nobody died on 9/11 and that the entire event was a Hollywood-style production, where the actual destruction of the WTC buildings was obscured by military smoke-machines.

Completely Bizarre Scenario

According to September Clues the Twin Towers were destroyed from the bottom up by conventional explosive charges. Nobody saw this as the television audience was shown pre-produced movie footage. The top down near free fall “collapse” of the Twin Towers is impossible so therefore any and all videos and pictures depicting this must be fake.

I have never seen a witness report the events as having happened that way. All of the witness reports I have read depict the events as having happened as the available videos and pictures show it. There is a huge gap between the September Clues version of 9/11 and the version that the rest of the world accepts. Here is a summation of September Clues positions:

It is fair to say the September Clues research has established these 4 main points:

1- The 9/11 imagery was nothing but a Hollywood-style film production, complete with actors in the role of ‘eye-witnesses’ or ‘firefighters’, staged ‘running crowds’, 3D-compositing and special cinematic effects. The ’9/11 movie’ was split into a number of short clips and sold to the TV audience as ‘newscasts’. The few clips featuring ‘airplanes’ (or dull silhouettes thereof) were computer-generated images – all of which in stark conflict with each other, as now comprehensively demonstrated in every imaginable manner, angle and method.

2- No commercial airliners were hijacked or – much less – crashed into the WTC towers, the Pentagon or the Shanksville field. No valid/verifiable records exist for : their airport logs/schedules, their numbered parts, their alleged passengers. Their reported speeds at near sea-level as well as the absurd visuals of their total, effortless disappearance into the WTC façades defy the laws of mechanics and physics – and the absence of visible wake vortexes in the WTC impact imagery also defies the laws of aerodynamics.

3- The World Trade Center Complex (9 buildings in all) were demolished with powerful explosives. No image-analyses of the tower collapses can help determine just what type of explosives were employed – since the videos are 3D animations and do not represent the real-life events. In reality, as they collapsed, the WTC complex was most likely enveloped by military-grade smoke obscurants. No real/private imagery exists of the morning’s events – ‘thanks’ to electromagnetic countermeasures.

4- No “3000″ people were trapped in the top floors/nor perished in the WTC towers. Only one thing was more important to the perps than avoiding a mass murder of 3000 US citizens : to sell the notion that “bogeyman Bin Laden” killed 3000 US citizens. We have renamed the ‘victims’ of these psy-operations “VICSIMS” (SIMulated VICtims). In fact, our research has seen the same pattern emerge in all the so-called “Al-Qaeda Terror Attacks” around the world (LONDON 7/7, MADRID 11, BALI, MUMBAI, etc…). In all logic, the very last aggravation the plotters behind these false-flag operations wish to have, are scores of real families hounding them forever with real questions and real class actions. Hence: NO real terror victims = Logical PsyOp rationale.

9/11 is but a giant – and still ongoing – money-making scam. It rotates around the most well-funded and profitable hoax of modern history. Everyone involved in the scheme is reaping a sizable return from their ‘investment bond’ which, naturally, has “SILENCE” printed all over it. For anyone to ‘speak out’ would be both ruinous and suicidal – a most distasteful option. To be sure, ‘suicidal heroics’ only exist in journalistic fairy-tales such as the outlandish news media’s narrative of 9/11 and its “nineteen religious fanatics”. The skeptics objecting that “too many people would have had to be in on this” fail to account for the most fundamental aspect of human nature: our survival instinct.

The master plan of 9/11 was to demolish the redundant, asbestos-filled WTC complex in Lower Manhattan – 9 buildings in all. The area would naturally be evacuated (as for all such demolitions) in order to prevent a slaughterhouse of dreadful proportions – not a good idea at all. To be sure, this was no mass murder scheme – just a formidable opportunity for massive financial gains and military propaganda. The military (and its various intelligence affiliates) would manage the ground logistics, such as securing the area, raising smokescreens to hide the proceedings from public view, and last but not least, electromagnetic countermeasures to keep any private cameras from filming the mayhem. The WTC complex was thus ‘safely’ destroyed in bright daylight. It was a magician’s trick, pulled off by sleight of hand to fool the few (the NY onlookers) – and with computer graphics to fool the world (the TV viewers).

Nobody died? The real destruction of the WTC buildings was somehow hidden from view? So what gives? Either September Clues knows something that the rest of us do not or they are completely out to lunch.

A cursory examination of their forum leads one to believe that the later has a much higher probability of being true than the former. For instance there is an entire thread devoted to proving that satellites are fake. In an interview with Ab Irato 12/28/13 Simon Shack denies that satellites exist.

They appear to be denying the existence of satellites as satellites can be used to prove the Earth is round.

Here is an audio clip of Simon Shack denying satellites exist:

Cartesian has an excellent post in the Flat Earth Discussion Boards:

Breaking News: Satellites DO Exist

Flat Earthers don’t believe in satellites as the existence of satellites can be used to disprove that the earth is flat. Satellites can take pictures of a round earth and Flat Earthers don’t like to see them. For Flat Earthers, those pictures are fabricated. Geostationary satellites are even worse. In order for an object to be geostationary, the object must orbit around the earth at the same angular velocity as earth’s rotation and at a certain altitude above the equator such that the centrifugal force due to the orbital movement is equal to the gravitational force.

An object cannot orbit a flat earth while remaining stationary above it. Furthermore, geostationary orbit is at 22,000 miles from earth, way above the Flat Earth sun. So satellite existence simply doesn’t fit into Flat Earth model.

Flat Earthers say GPS works based on LORAN (LOng RAnge Navigation), a terrestrial radio navigation system. Radio can travel long distance in the Flat Earth model because the earth is flat. Flat Earthers also say that satellite TV works based on transmission towers. Dishes don’t get signal from a geostationary satellite but rather from a very tall tower somewhere.

But how tall can these towers be? And where are they exactly located? Before answering my questions, I will show you some pictures taken in some places near the equator for you to ponder.

Satellite Dishes

Everyone who lives where I come from is used to this kind of scenery. We all believe that satellites do exist since birth because the proof is everywhere around us. So yes we are all born Round Earthers.

The Flat Earth Model

Modern hypotheses supporting a flat Earth originated with English inventor Samuel Rowbotham (1816–1884). Based on his incorrect interpretation of experiments on the Bedford Level, Rowbotham published a 16-page pamphlet, called “Zetetic Astronomy”, which he later expanded into a 430-page book, Earth Not a Globe, expounding his views. According to Rowbotham’s system, the earth is a flat disc centered at the North Pole and bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice (Antarctica), with the sun and moon 3,000 miles (4,800 km) and the “cosmos” 3,100 miles (5,000 km) above earth. He also published a leaflet entitled “The inconsistency of Modern Astronomy and its Opposition to the Scriptures!!” which argued that the “Bible, alongside our senses, supported the idea that the earth was flat and immovable and this essential truth should not be set aside for a system based solely on human conjecture.”

One of the many problems with the Flat Earth Model is the Earth rotates on its axis and has a Northern and Southern Hemisphere. The Earth tilts on its axis and this is what gives us the four different seasons. How does a Flat Earth person account for the four seasons? Why do hurricanes spin counter-clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and typhoons spin clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere?

This Just In: The Earth is ROUND

The Earth isn’t flat, that’s for sure. And if you look at a photograph, the Earth really looks round. But how round is it?

The actual shape of the Earth is actually an oblate spheroid – a sphere with a bulge around the equator. The Earth is bulged at its equator because it’s rapidly rotating on its axis. The centripetal force of the rotation causes the regions at the equator to bulge outward. And it actually makes a pretty big difference. The diameter of the Earth, measured across the equator is 43 km more than when you measure the diameter of the Earth from pole to pole.

This bulge has some interesting implications. For example, it means that the point on Earth furthest from the center isn’t actually Mount Everest, but Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador. Only because Chimborazo is closer to the Earth’s equator.


Human Remains Found at Ground Zero

If nobody died at Ground Zero on 9/11 then why were human remains found?

Jim Riches pulled his firefighter son’s mangled body out of the rubble at the World Trade Center, but the phone calls still filtered in years afterward. The city kept finding more pieces of his son.

“They’ll call you and they’ll tell you, ‘We found a shin bone,’” said Riches, a retired deputy fire chief. “Or: ‘We found an arm bone.’ We held them all together and then we put them in the cemetery.”

Those are the phone calls both dreaded and hoped for among the families of Sept. 11 victims. And as investigators began sifting through newly uncovered debris from the World Trade Center this week for the first time in three years, those anxieties were renewed more than a decade after the attacks.

But there was also hope that more victims might yet be identified after tens of millions have been spent on the painstaking identification process. Two potential human remains were recovered on Monday, according to the medical examiner.

“We would like to see the other 40 percent of the families who have never recovered anything to at least someday have a piece of their loved one,” Riches said. “That they can go to a cemetery and pray.”

About 60 truckloads of debris that could contain tiny fragments of bone or tissue were unearthed by construction crews that have been working on the new World Trade Center in recent years. That material is now being transported to a park built on top of the former Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island, where investigators will attempt to find any possible remains during the next 10 weeks, the city said. That’s the material the two potential human remains were found in.

Some 2,750 people died at the World Trade Center in the 2001 terrorist attacks, but only 1,634 people have been identified.

“We have been monitoring the World Trade Center site over time and monitoring the construction,” said Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. “And if they see any material that could possibly contain human remains, we collect that material.”

About 9,000 human remains recovered from the ruins of the World Trade Center remain unidentified because they are too degraded to match victims by DNA identification. The remains are stored at an undisclosed location monitored by the medical examiner’s office and will eventually be transferred to a subterranean chamber at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum.

If nobody died why was so much money paid out to the families?

Paying Off the Victims: September 11th Victim Compensation Fund

Just eleven days after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Congress created the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund. It was a unique, unprecedented commitment to compensate families who lost a loved one on 9/11 and survivors who were physically injured. In its haste, Congress provided very few guidelines as to how the funds should be distributed and set no limit on the size of awards. Instead it gave a single individual nearly unlimited discretion to manage the program.

Attorney General John Ashcroft appointed Kenneth Feinberg to administer the fund, handing him sole responsibility for calculating the dollar value of over 5,500 dead and injured in the worst peacetime disaster in U.S. History. In this he was supported by some 30 lawyers from his law firm and his wife, Diane “Dede” Shaff Feinberg.

Kenneth Feinberg: The Zionist Hush Money Specialist

Kenneth Feinberg is a Jewish lawyer known for wearing expensive Brioni suits, smoking Cuban cigars and his love of opera. He has become (in) famous for his handling of many high-profile litigations. A partial list of cases in which Feinberg has handled settlement payments:

* Penn. State sex abuse scandal involving Jewish football coach Jerry Sandusky

* Agent Orange product liability – class action by 250,000 Vietnam veterans

* Abraham Zapruder JFK film – one of three arbitrators who determined the fair market value of the film

* Holocaust slave labor litigation – one of two arbitrators

* Aurora, CT theatre shootings

* Sandy Hook school shootings

* Virginia Tech. mass shooting – administered the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund

* Boston Marathon bombing

* Hurricane Katrina

* BP Gulf Oil Spill

With a resume like that, it would appear that Kenneth Feinberg is the man the Zionists turn to whenever they need to cover something up and distribute hush money in the form of compensation.

For three years working pro bono as head of the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund, Feinberg reached out to all who qualified to file a claim, evaluated applications, determined appropriate compensation and distributed awards. Feinberg spent almost all of his time meeting with the 9/11 families, convincing them of the generosity and compassion of the program and calculating appropriate awards for each and every claim. He personally took part in most of the 1,500 hearings with survivors and victims’ families and his staff of 200 spent 33 months investigating claims and deciding benefits. Feinberg told ABC News on Dec. 19, 2003:

It’s a brutal, sort of cold thing to do. Anybody who looks at this program and expects that by cutting a U.S. Treasury check you are going to make 9/11 families happy is vastly misunderstanding what’s going on with this program.

When the program was launched, many families criticized it as a brazen, tight-fisted attempt to protect the airlines from lawsuits. The Fund was also attacked as attempting to put insulting dollar values on the lives of lost loved ones. Those who participated in the Fund were required to waive their right to sue the airlines involved in the attacks, as well as other potentially responsible entities including the Israeli airport security firm Huntleigh USA/ICTS. By taking the compensation, the families waived their right to demand a real investigation into 9/11.

More than 98 percent of the families accepted the money from the Feinberg-managed fund. The amounts of the payments and the amounts paid to Diane Feinberg and the 30 lawyers are not known. The American people deserve to know how the funds were used and who got paid.

Estimates put the total settlement amount at less than $3.5 billion total for all the victims. Due to the lack of oversight, it’s anyone’s guess where the rest of the tax dollars have gone. Ellen Mariani, a brave and fiery widow and 9/11 plaintiff, included Feinberg in her lawsuit which was eventually forcibly settled. Feinberg’s inclusion in the suit was partially related to his success in bribing Mariani’s attorney to try to coerce his client to accept the fund’s payout and attempt to convince her that she was clinically insane.

Feinberg’s role in covering up the truth about 9/11 is connected to his relationship to the state of Israel. A year after the settlement of the 9/11 claims he went to Israel at the behest of the Sharon government to work on compensating the 8,000 settlers they were trying to force out of Gaza. Kenneth Feinberg wasn’t working pro bono on the 9/11 victims fund out of compassion for the victims of 9/11, or for America. He was doing it to serve Israel and the murderous Mossad.

Diane ‘Dede’ Shaff Feinberg and the Jewish Agency

Diane and Kenneth Feinberg were co-chairmen of the recent General Assembly of the Jewish Federation, which hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak, two prime suspects in the Israeli terrorism of 9/11.

Diane is also an executive member of the United Israel Appeal and the Jewish Federation of Washington. She also happens to be a member of the Board of Governors of the Jewish Agency – the parent organization of the Mossad.

To understand why American Jews are willing to commit and cover-up serious crimes, even treason, on behalf of the state of Israel one needs to understand that most religious Jews in America are first obliged to serve Israel – a foreign state. American Jews are, for this reason, conflicted. Their religion obliges them to make “aliya” and live in Israel but most would prefer to stay in the United States. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis have chosen to leave “the Jewish state” and now live in the United States. While they are unwilling to leave the comfort of the United States and immigrate to Israel (aliya), most religious Jews in the United States feel strongly compelled to support and defend the state of Israel.

To fulfill their obligation to the state of Israel, Zionist Jews in America have created hundreds of organizations to raise funds and support for the Zionist state in Palestine. These organizations are consolidated under an umbrella organization called the Jewish Agency. The Jewish Agency and the World Zionist Organization are two parts of the same Zionist enterprise that operates in the United States and around the world. The Jewish Agency was the Zionist organization that became the state of Israel in 1948 when a Jewish state was established in Palestine. The Jewish Agency, then headed by David Ben-Gurion, literally became the apparatus of the Zionist state and Ben-Gurion became the first prime minister of Israel.

The Jewish Agency, head quartered in New York City after World War II, organized and funded the Haganah, the Zionist militia in Palestine, as well as the terrorist groups known as the Irgun and LEHI (the Stern Gang). Using these groups, the Jewish Agency created the Mossad Le Aliyah Bet (the Agency for Illegal Immigration) in 1938 to smuggle illegal Jewish immigrants and weapons into Palestine. The Jewish Agency and the Mossad worked together to bring many thousands of Jews to Palestine – illegally – from Yemen, Iraq, Egypt, and Europe. The Jewish Agency was the Mossad.

The Jewish Agency and the Mossad continued to work together after the creation of the state of Israel to bring Jews to the Zionist state. The hardline Zionists who run Israel today are actually fighting a losing battle with demographics. The Arab population around them is growing quickly while many Israelis are leaving the Jewish state. The Israeli population has become more Russian, more extremist, and less Western in its outlook than at any time since the founding of the state in 1948. Ariel Sharon, the now comatose prime minister who ran Israel in 2001, dreamed of bringing one million Jews to Israel from the United States. In this effort he worked closely with the Jewish Agency.

Alvin K. Hellerstein: U.S. Judge and Zionist gatekeeper

Feinberg’s actions were crucial to removing more than 98 percent of the families from the litigation process. Kenneth Feinberg and Judge Alvin Hellerstein have waged a war of attrition against the 9/11 relatives. Of the thousands of families that could have used the courts to find justice and legal discovery for what happened on 9-11, Feinberg was successful in removing 98 percent. Of the 96 families that chose to go to court, all but one or two cases have settled out of court after enduring years of obstruction in the court of Alvin K. Hellerstein. Thanks to Feinberg and Hellerstein there may never be a trial for a single victim of 9-11.

For the 96 families who initially chose to forgo the fund in favor of a transparent trial, Sheila Birnbaum was appointed special mediator between Hellerstein and the victims’ families. Birnbaum, another dedicated Zionist lawyer at the Israeli law firm Skadden Arps, effectively railroaded these brave families and forced them all to settle. Skadden Arps introduces itself with the following on its website:

Many of our attorneys are thoroughly familiar with the legal structure, business environment and political system of Israel, and several (including at the partner level) are Israeli-born, native Hebrew speakers who have been admitted to the bars of both Israel and New York. A number of our lawyers volunteer a significant amount of their time to Jewish and Israeli causes, including the America-Israel Friendship League, the Anti-Defamation League, the College of Management, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Elem, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, The Jerusalem Foundation and Miklat.”

Radical Zionist Alvin Hellerstein has controlled all 9/11 litigation. Hellerstein, Feinberg and Birnbaum were the triumvirate that formed the Zionist roadblock to any justice for the victims’ families. Hellerstein’s son, Joseph, worked for the law firm that represented ICTS, the Israeli passenger screening and security company implicated in 9/11. Hellerstein is thus guilty of a criminal conflict of interest in his prevention of a trial in any 9/11 lawsuit.

Alvin Hellerstein is tied to 9/11 directly in his role as head gatekeeper on all 9/11 claims, preventing legal discovery, wrongful death and personal injury lawsuits from trial. Judge Hellerstein is also intimately connected to other key Israeli players of the 9/11 massacre on multiple layers through his son, Joseph. Joseph Hellerstein worked for an Israeli law firm, Amit, Pollack and Matalon, which represented ICTS, the Israeli firm implicated in the attacks via passenger screening and airline security at Newark, Boston Logan, and Dulles, the departure sites of the hijacked aircraft.

ICTS is owned by two Israelis, Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon. Atzmon was convicted in Israel of fraud with partner and mayor of Jerusalem, Ehud Olmert. Olmert later became prime minister of Israel. Olmert incidentally also made a secret trip to meet with then mayor of NYC, Rudy Giuliani on the eve of 9/11, ostensibly to oversee their plot. He and other Israeli officials were allowed to leave the US aboard an El Al plane when all other planes were grounded on 9/11. ICTS was also implicated in the 7/7 bombings in London.

Hellerstein recently effectively blocked the last victim’s family, the Bavises, from ever having a day of trial against the government and airport security, forcing them to settle out of court after a decade of his dedicated gatekeeping. His callous quote to the 96 families of victims of 9/11 will live in infamy:

We have to get past 9/11. Let it go. Life is beautiful. Life is short. Live out your years. Take the award.”

Both father and son Hellerstein also worked for Stroock, Stroock, and Lavan, a Rothschild funded law firm which, incidentally, represented Larry Silverstein in his bid to lease the towers. How many conflicts of interests can you count?

The Origins of September Clues

Around the beginning of June 2007, a new video – called “September Clues” appeared. It presented an analysis of the events as they were shown on TV on 9/11/2001. It tried to present the evidence that some of the images we were shown of the events could not have been real. The person who had produced/edited this video used the pseudonym “Social Service” and he seemed to be associated with a band of the same name.

Over the next few months “Social Service” released several updates to September clues and it finally ended up as 8 ten-minute segments and a couple of additional “epilogue” videos. Around this time, it was revealed that Social Service’s name was “Simon Shack”.

In July or August 2008, on a forum, Simon Shack made a request for some web storage space for his videos. A man called Andrew Johnson offered some of the space to Simon Shack to store his video files etc., and also purchased a domain name for Simon Shack A year later when the subscription to that web space expired, Johnson and Shack began to have a series of increasingly serious disagreements, with the bulk of the animosity emanating from the Shack side.

Who is Simon Shack?

As it turns out, Simon Shack is actually a Pseudonym. Simon Shack’s real name is Simon Hytten and he disclosed this on his forum in March 2011. Simon gave this explanation for his adoption of the Shack pseudonym:

My surname Shack was coined back in 1993 or so by a black, Colorado-born jazz musician named Fontaine Burnette. Try and contact him and ask him about it (I haven’t heard from him in many years). He asked me what Hytten meant – so I told him it means a little house/or hut. So he just quipped… “Like a shack?” – and I said yeah, a bit like a shack. That’s all there is to it. I liked it. So then, as I registered at the STIM (the Swedish Musician’s Union) I was told that my artist name would be accepted – even at legal/bureaucratic levels. So that’s how I signed in at STIM. Ever since, I have used this surname – and all music reviews/articles written about me/my band (The Social Service) as a musician, have had me as Simon Shack. It simply stuck on me – and most people now know me by that name. I certainly had no motive to change my surname back in 1993 – in order to hide from something! At the time, I had no clue whatsoever of how this crazy world is rolling!

Early years in Sicily – disrupting Dailo Dolci’s anti-Mafia crusade

Simon Hytten was born in Stockholm, Sweden from a Norwegian father and a Swedish mother. Simon grew up in Sicily with two brothers and his parents who were part of a ‘workshop’ run by Danilo Dolci in a small town near Palermo called Partinico.

Danilo Dolci was an anti-mafia crusader and it appears that Simon’s father, Eyvind Hytten was sent to infiltrate and disrupt Dolci’s work. In 1967, Dolci held a press conference where he accused prominent members of the government, by name, of collusion with the Mafia. Sometime after this, Eyvind Hytten split from Dolci and planned to establish an institute in Palermo to train development workers. Hytten was quoted as saying:

We did not want to be instruments for maintaining Dolci’s fame. We wanted his fame to be an instrument for our work for Sicilians. I think that we, more than Dolci, now represent the possibility of doing something for Sicily.

However, the motives for Hytten’s work were questioned by the Swedish committee who had originally sponsored his work with Dolci; they stated in a press release:

We deplore the manner in which Hytten has publicly taken a stand against Dolci. We will in no way participate in Hytten’s plans, but will continue to support Danilo Dolci in his tireless campaign to release Sicily from the grip of poverty and a powerful Mafia.”

The Swedish group also announced it was fully washing it hands of Hytten and sharply criticized the newspapers who had given the false impression that Hytten had become Dolci’s legitimate successor in Sicily. Sadly, Hytten’s nefarious work had its desired effect, as noted on Dolci’s Wikipedia page:

The smears certainly succeeded in pushing Dolci out of the limelight in Italy – for the last 20 years of his life he disappeared from public view.”

So it appears that Eyvind Hytten was controlled opposition sent in to disrupt and destroy Dolci’s anti-mafia organization, sadly he succeeded. Simon Hytten tried to shift the blame onto American writer Jerre Mangione, author of the book ‘The World around Danilo Dolci’

So what exactly do you think this former Syracuse graduate/Time Magazine/Department Of Justice employee was doing in Sicily interviewing a groundbreaking, upcoming yet “inconvenient”(for the world elite) anti-mafia activist like Danilo Dolci? Was he not there perhaps – just perhaps – to give a bad name to the whole community, and to point out/inflate the workshop’s inevitable, petty squabbles? To be sure, this is what transpires when you scour the chapters of his book

Geneva and the Bin Ladins


Shack admits he put the Bin Ladin stickers on Mario’s race car:

After their work was done in Sicily, the family moved to Geneva, Switzerland where Eyvind took up employment with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

During this time in Geneva, Simon’s elder brother Mario began a career as a racing driver, he competed for 3 seasons 1982-84 in the Marlboro British Formula 3 Championship before competing in the FIA Formula 3000 Int. Championship for four seasons 1985-88. Mario didn’t have much success, winning only one race and claiming eight podium positions from over 70 starts. He had a handful of races in sports car formulae 1989-92 before retiring in 1993. Nowadays, he lives in Sweden and works as a manager and translator.

During his career, Mario was sponsored by the “Bin Ladin Group.” Apparently, Mario befriended Yeslam Bin Ladin, an entrepreneur and half-brother of Osama Bin Laden. Yeslam is a fully Westernized man, possesses a degree in Economics, speaks four languages fluently, owns several successful businesses and became a naturalized Swiss citizen in 2001.

Yeslam became interested in helping Mario in early 1986. As he was quite influential in Arab elite, the brother of Osama managed to recruit a number of sponsors of the Middle East to support Mario in Formula 3000. The main sponsor was Yeslam’s family company, the Bin Ladin Group and this can be seen from photos of Mario’s F3000 car where the Bin Ladin Group is advertised on the rear wing.

Simon tried to explain this connection on his forum:

I must say that Mario did well for himself in finding wealthy sponsors to forward his car racing career. He was a relentless sponsorship hunter and, at some stage, got to meet Yeslam Bin Ladin in his London office. Yeslam gave him some cash to promote his construction company

Regardless of the truth of the actual relationship, it is clear that Simon Shack aka Simon Hytten, was, for at least a few years in the 1980s, one person removed from the Bin Ladin family.

Apparently, there is little love lost today between Simon and his two elder brothers, as Simon wrote in an internet post:

a few lines about my estranged brothers, Nicolai and Mario. They have inexplicably grown into two abject human beings – and I have almost no words to qualify their current behavior.”

Simon describes Nicolai and Mario as ‘two despicable creatures’ and states that “my disdain for them is immense.

Deconstructing the Clues Forum 9/11 Mythology

“September Clues” has constructed their own bizarre mythology surrounding the events of 9/11. The Clues Forum guys would have you believe that the Twin Towers were vacant after the 1993 bombing, nobody died on 9/11 and all of the footage was produced ahead of time and shown to the television audience while the actual destruction of the World Trade Center buildings was hidden from the view of New Yorkers by military smoke machines. If I were Larry Silverstein or another of the 9/11 perps I would certainly want the 9/11 research community to believe these absurd notions.

They also weave in ludicrous statements such as nuclear weapons don’t exist, rockets cannot travel into outer space and satellites don’t exist. The only good reason to doubt the existence of satellites is if you believe the Earth is flat.

The September Clues 9/11 myth does not withstand even modest scrutiny. Human remains have been found all over the WTC complex and continue to be unearthed to this very day. Numerous people died there. Billions of dollars were paid out by the Zionists to keep the families quiet. The survivors of Stairwell B of the North Tower attest to the fact that the Towers were not empty on 9/11.

Simon Shack, Onebornfree, El Buggo and Ab Irato have spent countless hours posting comments attacking the authors of this article. They protest the most vehemently when Israeli nuclear bombs are mentioned as causing the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings. September Clues has all of the earmarks of being a 9/11 gatekeeping operation. Buying into their bizarre 9/11 mythology may be appealing if you believe the Earth is flat.

Dwain Deets: A Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon on 9/11

The material in this post was covered on Jim Fetzer’s show 12/18/2013. You can play the show in your browser or download it here.

I got an email a few days ago stating that I needed to see Dwain Deets’ presentation from the DC 9/11 conference last September. I was told that Dwain was claiming that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon after all. Dwain is not claiming that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon but most likely a modified 757 was used. I was somewhat taken aback by that statement.

Dwain was a fellow speaker at the Vancouver Hearings in June 2012 and he was a “no plane” guy at that time. By “no planes” we generally mean no commercial planes hit the Twin Towers, the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville. Transponder data obtained by Pilots for 9/11 Truth as well as Bureau of Transportation Statistics data back that up. The debate then centers around if real planes could perform the feats observed on 9/11.

I generally stay out of the plane/no plane debate. I’m not a video expert nor do I pretend to be one. My “official” position is that no commercial plane crashed anywhere on 9/11. As Jim Fetzer points out:  Flights 11 and 77 were not even scheduled that day and the planes corresponding to Flights 93 and 175 were not formally taken out of service until 28 September 2005.

Here is Dwain’s presentation:

A few points immediately came to mind after viewing Dwain’s presentation:

1. No 757 can fly that fast that low. It’s aerodynamically impossible. The engines can’t suck the air through fast enough at ground level. This YouTube clip features Joe Keith (who designed the Boeing shaker system) who states that the air is too thick at ground level for a commercial Boeing to fly 500 miles per hour. The plane would have broken apart long before it hit the Pentagon.

2. Dwain’s contention is that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon at a speed approaching 500 miles per hour and like the F4 in the video below then turned into “confetti” upon impact. The biggest problem with this scenario is that there is no mechanism that can get a Boeing 757 anywhere near that speed at ground level. The F4 impacting the wall is not flying but it’s bolted down to a track. A real plane would take off at that speed.

3. The parts that were found at the Pentagon WERE NOT from a 757. Parts from a different type of plane were planted there.



4. There is no photographic or video evidence that shows a 757 hitting the Pentagon. They didn’t even produce fake footage. Those 4 frames of whatever it was they released are NOT a 757.


5. The GPS system being publicly available would have no bearing on a Black Op like 9/11. Black Ops doesn’t need to wait for technology to become publicly available before they pull off an operation.

6. The hole in the Pentagon was not produced by a 757. It was produced by a shape-charged mini-nuke

physics911pentagonHole7. We see toasted cars near the Pentagon on 9/11 which lends credence to the theory that that the Pentagon was nuked. The toasted cars were all over Lower Manhattan on 9/11.

pentagon toasted cars

If No Plane Hit the Pentagon Then What Really Happened?

Radiation Expert Claims High-Radiation Readings Near Pentagon After 9/11 Indicates Depleted Uranium Used

By Greg Szymanski


Two high profile radiation experts concur Pentagon strike involved use of a missile. Also Geiger counter readings right after the attack shows high levels of radiation 12 miles away from Pentagon crash site. A radiation expert and high-ranking Army Major, who once headed the military’s depleted uranium project, both contend the Pentagon was hit by missile, not a commercial jetliner, adding high radiation readings after the strike indicate depleted uranium also may have been used. “I’m not an explosives or crash site expert, but I am highly knowledgeable in causes and effects related to nuclear radiation contamination. What happened at the Pentagon is highly suspicious, leading me to believe a missile with a depleted uranium warhead may have been used,” said radiation expert Leuren Moret in a telephone conversation this week from her Berkeley, CA home. Moret, who has spent a life time working in the nuclear field, first as a staff scientist at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Laboratory in California, is now a member of The Radiation and Public Health Project (RPHP), a privately funded group studying the devastating effects of depleted uranium especially in Iraq and Afghanistan. Regarding the missile theory, it is also backed up by retired Army Maj. Doug Rokke, a PhD educational physics and former top military expert banished from the Pentagon after the military failed to follow regulations regarding the use, clean up and medical treatment regarding the use of depleted uranium. “When you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane parts, the size of the hole left in the building and the fact the projectile’s impact penetrated numerous concrete walls, it looks like the work of a missile,” said Maj. Rokke from his Rantoul, IL home this week. “And when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile. Also, if you look at the WTC and the disturbing flash hitting the tower right before the impact of the airplane, it also looks like a missile was used.” And to prove the government’s jetliner theory is wrong, Moret said the quick actions of a friend near the Pentagon on the morning of 9/11, provide even more suspicion. Moret recalls on the tragic morning that once she saw the jetliner strike the twin towers and then heard about the Pentagon crash, she immediately called a close friend in Alexandria VA, Dr. Janette Sherman. Thinking radiation might be involved, she quickly asked Dr. Sherman, 77, a radiation expert and medical doctor who lived about 12 miles from the crash site, to get a Geiger counter reading. What the pair of experts found is astonishing. What they found is not only astonishing but four years after 9/11, what’s even more incredible is that their findings have been completely ignored by most everyone, including the Bush administration, the 9/11 Commission and the mainstream media, all who appear more interested in rubber stamping the official 9/11 story then getting at the real truth. “Dr. Sherman was downwind from the Pentagon on 9/11 and her Geiger counter readings show an extremely high reading, a reading of more than eight to ten times higher than normal,” said Moret, also an expert in the cause and effects of depleted uranium. “Dr. Sherman, who is well-respected radiation expert herself, then went about contacting the proper authorities in order to try and alert emergency responders of the radiation risk at the Pentagon crash site. And we have also kept photos of the Geiger counter readings in order to verify what Dr. Sherman found 12 miles away.”

Leuren Moret and Doug Rokke believed that a missile struck the Pentagon and depleted uranium was involved. In light of what we know happened in New York to the World Trade Center buildings (at least four were nuked) it appears that enriched uranium was involved in the Pentagon attack. The toasted cars at the Pentagon are eerily similar to what we saw in Lower Manhattan leading me to believe that the Pentagon was neutron nuked. Some Pentagon researchers believe that a bomb was planted inside the Pentagon. That appears to be more likely than a missile with a nuclear warhead hitting the Pentagon. If that is true then whatever happened on the outside of the building was just scenery for the public.